3 Jan
2012
3 Jan
'12
1:59 p.m.
On 03/01/12 5:16 AM, Vintage Coder wrote:
No argument from me. I've coded assembler for most
of my life. This young guy just didn't get it. I couldn't even get him to
understand the examples of things Java couldn't do on the platform we were talking
about. My coworker turned to him and said "you do realize Java eventually gets
translated to assembler in order for it to actually do anything, don't you?" Even
that didn't work!
"We give up."
Some people should be doing something else. From what I see around:
Maybe 80% of the current industry.
Why? They didn't learn and they won't learn.
--Toby
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From: Dave Caroline<dave.thearchivist at gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: teaching programming to kids - Re: Looking for 8080/Z80 BASIC
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 9:59 AM, Vintage Coder<vintagecoder at aol.com> wrote:
Depends who you ask. I was told by a guy with 3
years of Java programming under his belt that Java is much more powerful than assembler,
after all, Java is object oriented! ;-)
For fun show him the book title
Object oriented assembly language
L. Dirfman Windcrest 1990
and define powerful :)
you can do anything in assembler that the processor allows
ask him if he can write a hardware driver in a couple of k memory on a
6502 in Java.
Dave Caroline