28 Apr
2016
28 Apr
'16
6:40 a.m.
On 27 April 2016 at 20:50, Noel Chiappa <jnc at mercury.lcs.mit.edu> wrote:
Thank you!
The JS line is the one that's attracting particularly harsh criticism
on FB, incidentally.
Yes, so I've heard.
But the thing, the big thing, is that computers aren't organisms.
We can study dinosaurs and work out what they were good and bad at,
but Jurassic Park will never happen. Absent time machines, we cannot
bring them back.
But we could build new computers using the lessons of the past.
But nobody much is doing it.
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From: Liam
Proven
There's the not-remotely-safe kinda-sorta C
in a web browser,
Javascript.
Love the rant, which I mostly agree with (_especially_ that one). A couple of
comments:
I have and will read up on this before I comment.
So they still have C like holes and there are
frequent patches and
updates to try to make them able to retain some water for a short time,
while the "cyber criminals" make hundreds of millions.
It's not clear to me that a 'better language' is going to get rid of that,
because there will always be bugs (and the bigger the application, and the
more it gets changed, the more there will be). The vibe I get from my
knowledge of security is that it takes a secure OS, running on hardware that
enforces security, to really fix the problem. (Google "Roger Schell".) The Lisp
Machines and Smalltalk boxes lost the workstation war. Unix
won, and as history is written by the victors
Custom hardware for running LISP lost (not sure about Smalltalk, don't know
much about it), I am quite sure, mostly because 'mainstream' CPUs got so much
faster/cheaper, because of the volume. I saw this happening in the AI Lab at
MIT: when you could run LISP on a workstation with a vanilla CPU much faster
than a specialized LISP processor, that's all she wrote. (That effect killed
all sorts of things, not just LISP machines, of course.)