21 Oct
2004
21 Oct
'04
11:38 p.m.
>> > >>> HITS NAIL ON HEAD
>> >
>> >1) I know many hardware hackers who don't know a compiler from a
>> >debugger [Thinking of some of my Ham buddies]....
>>
>> Debugger? Isn't that what printf("at step
>> 2\r\n"); and while(!kbhit()); are for?
>>
Not at all! <groan> Regardless of what type of system you are working on a
real debugger is just as necessary as a 'scope for working on hardware.
MINIMAL functionallity should include: breakpoints and the ability at
monitor/alter memory while the program is executing (albiet typically
paused).
For embedded systems I prefer an ICE, altought I do work with many systems
where I use a "monitor" approach. For desktop appliction level programs, I
usually use a commercial debugger. For OS or driver (Ring-0) code, I have
debug versions of the kernal for most of my development environments.
>> >2) I tend to hit finger with hammer and
from nail.
>>
>> You type good, must not be using hammer much, eh?
>>
Re-read the above (it was supposed to read "and drop nail"!)...I was not
typing so good. Seriously I learned to type on a Royal manual typewriter at
a fairly young age. I did not have the strength to "touch type" the outter
keys [QAZP], so I sort of adapted. Then I worked on ASR-33's which did not
lend themselves to touch typing either. These days I type a nearly the rate
of a "typist" but with a distinctly unique style of using <grin>