3 Jan
2012
3 Jan
'12
2:17 p.m.
I think this is the bone of contention. Some people view the power of a language based on
expressiveness, conciseness (is that a word) etc. and others look at power from a
standpoint of what can be accomplished with it.
Both views have their place, depending on your orientation.
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On 03/01/12 4:59 AM, Vintage Coder wrote:
Depends who you ask. I was told by a guy with 3 years
of Java programming under his belt that Java is much more powerful than assembler, after
all, Java is object oriented! ;-)
From the point of view of "abstraction", he is right. The abstractions
in Java *are* much more powerful.
--Toby
Anyway this ought to be an interesting subthread.
I'll make the popcorn!
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From: Chuck Guzis
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On 3 Jan 2012 at 2:28, Richard wrote:
It's not really a fair comparison as we
expect a "modern" language to
do much more than FORTRAN 66.
Do what, exactly? Are you saying that simple languages can't "do"
what more complicated ones do? Does the simplest---machine code, do
less than, any HLL, modern or ancient? Is C less capable than
Python?
--Chuck