28 Mar
2016
28 Mar
'16
12:50 p.m.
On Mar 28, 2016, at 2:08 PM, Charles Anthony <charles.unix.pro at gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 11:33 AM, Robert Johnson
<aloha at blastpuppy.com>
wrote:
What they did was 'NAT plus IPV6 will solve everything.'
It seems like NAT gave them enough breathing room to fumble IPV6 through
feature creep and enabled slow uptake.
The is no pressure to leave NAT; the vast majority of the NATed users have
bought into the client/server model of centrally managed services and are
happy surfing the web and putting their credit card numbers in the cloud;
the ISPs are raking in the money. NAT is great for that, but if you and I
want to do peer-to-peer, we are out of luck.
I don't have a problem with NAT per se w.r.t. address exhaustion; I have a
problem with it apparently being deployed as a solution, and not as a
stop-gap.
-- Charles
All,
Didn?t quite realize (maybe should have) the discussion I?d kick off. I was thinking
?classic? in regard to my OS 10.4 machines which are well over a decade old. The
discussion is fascinating, but ...
Relabelled the thread ?OT? because i think it?s maybe not germane to ?classic?
computing.
Please reply to this title (or better, off-list) if you agree.
- Mark
210-522-6025 office 210-379-4635 cell
On Mar 28, 2016, at 7:45 AM, Charles Anthony <charles.unix.pro at gmail.com>
wrote:
I think that having HTTP use DNS was the big one; it changed the role of
DNS from finding computers by name to the being the innocent victim of
the
land rush of domain name marketing.
Followed closely by NAT being used make vast portions of the internet
dark.
-- Charles
What would you have done in place of NAT? there isn?t enough IPv4 address
space to go around, and has not been my entire time in the tech industry.