18 Nov
2010
18 Nov
'10
7:58 p.m.
From: "Tony Duell" <ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk>
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 8:29 PM
To: <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Subject: Re: MEK6800D2 restoration
Well, since Tony did not mention it ... I did this long ago, and I remember
that Tony has told about this here too, not so long ago :-/
Since the 4116 are in sockets, remove them! If you replace them with 4164
you can get rid of the -5V power supply, and IIRC also the +12V power
supply.
There are a few pins (2 or 3) of all 4116 sockets that must be tied together
or to some level (GND or +5V).
4164 are not expensive and it solves the triple voltage issue very nice.
If you have the schematics you could even add a few switches or output lines
and have a form of "bank switching".
Or just accept that 3/4 of the available RAM is not used :-)
- Henk.
I'm in the process of restoring a Motorola MEK-6800-D2 evaluation kit.
The kit was adapted and has its RAM on a separate board through an
EXORciser backplane.
After putting everything together and verifying that all looks good,
I've applied +5V from an ATX power supply. The '-' prompt appeared, the
JBUG monitor program is working and I even dumped the ROM and some
EPROMs over the cassette port and decoded them on a PC :)
So far so good, but to do anything cool I need the RAM board going. The
problem is that this (custom wire-wrapped board) is using 16 MCM4116
chips. They need also -5V and +12V. Ok, these are available on the ATX
power supply but I'm affraid of doing anything stupid that might blow up
something.
What would you check before applying these additional power levels ?
I've been verifying a bit with an ohm meter that the -5V and +12V leads
are not by accident connected to anything they shouldn't but not sure if
that's a good way.
Thats a good start :-)
I would certainly power up the RAM board on its own, without the
processor board connected. Then check that none of the bus lines have
+12V or -5V on them.
You mention that the memory board is wire-wrapped. I assume, therefore,
the ICs are socketed. I micht well m,ake a layout diagram, remove the lot
(or at least anything that's hard to get or expesnice), power up, and
make darn sure no pins are at +12V or -5V that shouldn't be. This has the
bonus that you'll reseat the ICs when you put them back, possibly
eliminating socket problems for the moment.
I also read in the datasheet that you need to apply -5V before the
others and removing it after the others. How would you do that ? I was
thinking on having the -5V and GND permanently connected. So after
switching on the power supply it will have -5V right away. Then manually
connect a additional cable having GND, +5V and +12V. On power off do
the reverse. Is that a good idea ? Not very handy but if it works I'll
live with it.
Normally, the difference in loads on the supplies (-5V being very lightly
loaded) means that the -5V line comes up first if you just supply them
all from the same PSU. Not having an ATX PSU, I cna't be sure it'll
behave in thsi way, but the older PC/XT and PC/AT supplies should do,
3-rail DRAMs were used in some PC add-ons. I've worked on plenty of
machines with 3-rail DRAMs and seen any more elaborate power sequencing
than simply the difference in loads.
-tony