Taken: AT 286 motherboard with mathco

Rumor has it that M H Stein may have mentioned these words: When anyone starts out with "You won't convince me..." and you don't have _hard numbers_ then it doesn't matter who has what facts... ... but for that matter, I'd disagree with you anyway... for the simple fact that you're looking at *sheer numbers.* I'd look at it as a per-capita number: The number of people who dug deep into their computers as a ratio of the total number of people who actually had computers (say... 20 years ago) IMHO would be higher than today. There might be more projects overall, but the number of projects in comparison to the number of people who just use their computers as toasters as a ratio is lower. But as you're not convinced for anything for any reason, it would be pointless for me to tell you about it. ;-) Which just goes to show that Mark Twain wasn't just right... but was /damn right/ when he said this: "There are 3 kinds of lies in this world: lies, damn lies, and statistics." ;-) I will say this: There's a lot less "mainstream computer" hacking now than then. As in: When Tandy CoCos/Commie64's/Apple]['s/etc. were mainstream, there was a lot more hacking then for them than there is for hardware Pentium4/Athlon/etc. stuff now. A lot of the hacking that goes on nowadays is for routers (look at what you can hook up to a WRT54Gxx series router), CPLD/FPGA's, and now older computers. For the CoCo alone, there's VGA and SVideo upconverters, CompactFlash & IDE interfaces, etc... Today's computers (beyond overclocking... pffft.... that's not hacking) just aren't that hackable. Just my $0.000000002 worth. Laterz, Roger "Merch" Merchberger -- Roger "Merch" Merchberger -- SysAdmin, Iceberg Computers zmerch at 30below.com What do you do when Life gives you lemons, and you don't *like* lemonade?????????????