6 Nov
2012
6 Nov
'12
5:57 p.m.
Am 06.11.2012 um 22:20 schrieb Liam Proven:
Thanks! I started to be worried...
Ah-ha! :-)
Depends. :-) I'm trying to get as many machines as possible from
ethernet to my Token Ring. :-) Best thing I got recently was a network
card for my APC-UPS. Token Ring! :-D
Thanks! All of this wasn't built in a day but over years. Yes, it was
an effort. But it works when I need it and I can impress people :-)
Everyone has a focus on his own usage. :-)
Thanks. Like it pleases you to see your old Macs on the web, it
pleases me to actually use the machines for something. Usage is not so
heavy like when the particular boxes were my only one but they have
usage.
On my LC runs Sys 6. I need to make space, so I can tinker with the
source of IRCle. I miss a few features. ;-) Unfortunately, compilation
is not possible with the most recent version of THINK Pascal. I
suspict a compiler bug. When compiling, TP stops complaining about the
type of a parameter given to SFGetFile(). With TP 2 under Sys 6, it
works. Same source files.
:wq! PoC
first, please
apoplogize. I didn't and don't want to offend! It's
just the
way I feel from years of practice.
Oh no, not at all. I am enjoying the debate! But I started out on Macs in the very late days of
System 6 & moved to
System 7 within months.
I started my use of Macs in 1988, a Mac II with a 1-bit Viking
Moniterm TTL 19", 1024x768 display with anti-glare. 2MB RAM, System
6.0.3. (Helping my dad run a new company.) Comparing to what I've seen
in classmates' homes, this was heaven on earth! So, I'm very used to
System 6. :-) Anyone remember the backup program shipped with 6.0.3? I
once had to make a full restore and this damned thing had no idea of
the folder structure. I put all files just onto the plain disk!
Later, when I had money for an used SE/30 in 1992, I tried to stay
with 6.0.7 but System 7 had many advantages for me also. Try to move a
file from a window behind the destination window into this destination
window in Sys 6 and Sys 7. With Sys 6, the source window will rise,
possibly cover the destination window and you're doomed to put the
file back and shuffle windows first. With Sys 7, the source window
stays behind, won't cover the destination window and you can easily
move the file. That's important when working on a 512x384-pixel
screen. When running programs in the background (actually doing
something), everything feels a lot smoother in Sys 7 than with Sys 6.
And, copying files, emptying the trash in the background! And a lot
more.
One the downside, screen redraws felt a low slower than with Sys 6.
I am used to a clock in the menu bar
SuperClock! My Choice for Sys 6 and 7!
a hierarchical Apple menu, a modular control panel, a
screen-saver,
things like that. It is perfectly possible to add all this to Sys6
with some INITs and CDEVs - although it was tricky to find them when I
did it, and that was 5-6y ago now.
I agree.
I must admit, I don't use any Macs slower than
that. I have an LC2 but
I mean just to fix it up & try to sell it. 68030 is as low as I want
to go these days, I think. :)
I'm very happy with my IIfx, running Sys 7.1. :-) Okay, this is a bad
example, since it's the fastest 030 from Apple.
Certainly, I would run the lowest system version that
did what I
needed if I was on a 68000, so I agree with you there.
Thanks :-)
Maybe it's
reasonably quick when it's running but booting is
painfully slow
on low end machines. Especially *with* extensions to provide a
"pleasant and
productive environment". ;-)
I didn't find it so, actually. The Classic II maxes out at 10MB of
RAM; 7.6.1 recommends a minimum of 12MB. I did not expect it to work.
It did, very well.
Then I turned off virtual memory and added RAMdoubler. ;?) I think our attitudes differ on this.
Yes, I absolutely agree.
If if comes
down to machines not equipped with Ethernet or Token
Ring,
there's no other choice than running AppleTalk over LocalTalk. One
may use
MacTCP or Open Transport to encap IP into AppleTalk packets, so
still IP is
possible (with a maximum MTU of 576 Bytes).
Aha! I use an Asant? EtherSCSI. If I can't have Ethernet and TCP/IP, I
regard it as not being networked, these days. I have a
LaserJet 5100, equipped with a Token Ring network card.
How can I
print from my IIfx on this? HP Token Ring equipment doesn't talk
AppleTalk.
I'm printing into a Netware queue via AppleTalk. From there, the
pserver.nlm
takes the job and feeds it to the printer via IPX.
Cunning!
But probably more work than I would go to, I fear. You see, the
extent of "you need TCP/IP" statement depends heavily
on usage
scenarios.
Well, true. I was thinking only of my own use, I confess. Me either. So
we're basically talkin' 'bout the same. Let alone,
the way of
usage seems to be different. Example: On my IIfx, I'm running
Ircle, for
chatting on an internal IRC-Network with a lot of friends. I'm
running
telnet to tail -f the system log of my linux box. I'm running MacX
to see
what XLoad tells about the usage of my Linux box. I'm running
Newswatcher to
read and answer interesting discussions in Mac centric usenet
groups. I'm
running Peter Lewis' talk(d) applications for copypasting Web-URLs
from and
to IRC or news articles, to watch on the G5. This is a very IP-
centric
usage.
Definitely, yes. But probably more work than I would bother to do. I
am very impressed, though!