Ok Ray, you can shut up now. This has nothing to do with anything really
except the search for attention and obvious stupidity. You win at that
front and I may even go as far as nominating you for a Darwin award (with
ignorance such as yours, I'm more than sure something life threatening will
be brought upon itself with you - grabbing bare wires, bitching out an
armed assailant, stepping in front of a bus, etc. - ok, I can hope). And
since you've proven your complete worthlessness as a human being, I must
now a) put you on my filter of idiots to ignore and b) report you to the
Church of Scientology; I am pleased to tell you that you've made such an
ass out of yourself that you'd fit right in. Congratulations jerk.
Jay, you're right and I hope something can be done about this waste of
zygote. Glen: you're right again. I hope my comments made you feel a little
better about this post string.
-John
At 07:13 AM 5/17/02, you wrote:
On Friday 17 May 2002 00:14, you wrote:
From:
Raymond Moyers <rmoyers(a)nop.org>
I understand the thinking behind bifurcation of the list,
but this wont quell the foamy mouth shout-down/shoot-down
crowd that lay claim to that manufactured "civil" right
to protection against speech that they find offensive.
Jay --
I find Mr. Moyers' speech to be offensive in the context of this list.
"...The Left's First Amendment would read 'Congress shall make
no law ... abridging the freedom of speech, etc. ... providing
such speech or activities do not offend. If any offense is
taken, citizen whiners, being necessary to the security of a
politically correct state, shall from time to time suppress the
offender's free speech rights by any means necessary, including,
but not limited to, required sensitivity training, re-education,
and loss of income'." --Edwin Feulner
"If winning is the only value, why debate when you can suppress?"
--John Leo
"'No tolerance' means more than just a warning, because that would
mean tolerance." --Dry Creek Elementary School Principal Darci Mickle,
of Centennial, Colorado, discussing seven fourth-graders sent home from
school, then sentenced to a week's lunchtime detention, for violating
"zero tolerance" policies; the boys, playing a game of soldiers and aliens,
pointed their fingers like firearms during the mock battles.
A lot has been said about the "good Germans, who said nothing"
what is missing from most of it is why they were silent and how
they where silenced,
"Being a lover of freedom, when the [Nazi] revolution came,
I looked to the universities to defend it, knowing that they had
always boasted of their devotion to the cause of truth;
but no, the universities were immediately silenced.
Then I looked to the great editors of the newspapers,
whose flaming editorials in days gone had proclaimed their
love of freedom; but they, like the universities, were silenced in a
few short weeks....
Only the Church stood squarely across the path of Hitler's
campaign for suppressing the truth.
I never had any special interest in the Church before, but
now I feel a great affection and admiration for it because
the Church alone has had the courage and persistence
to stand for intellectual and moral freedom.
I am forced to confess that what I once despised I now praise
unreservedly." --Albert Einstein
Its a tactic of the left to purge any casual mention of their bloodstained
past from all forums the same way the NAZIs silenced their opposition
in the last days of the Wiemar republic.
All lists have their brushfires and posts that look like bait, but the
fires consume their fuel and extingush themselves, and even the
most intrangent will soon enough notice he is off in the ditch
and steer himself back between the stripes.
Those of us that are accustomed to American freedom, and what
that means grant latitude to the voice and actions of others
automatically, knowing that the license we grant to others
directly supports our own.
In my opinion, i would have routed those clamoring for "control"
to /dev/null , once you act on the desires of the control freaks
you empower them with the ability of the always used tactic
of making such a clamor that you in effect hand over all power
to them to shut them up. a tactic that works all too often.
Raymond
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