11 Apr
2011
11 Apr
'11
8:15 a.m.
I may have what you need. I read in some IBM 8100 disks using a
Catweasel a few years back.
I am at work now, but will provide the Catweasel config that I read them
with.
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 3:09 AM, Colin Eby wrote:
All --
Wondered if I could pick your collective brains. I'm helping a museum
to
recover data and software off 8" System/36 diskettes. The first batch
is a
DFU dataset. I've also got all the reference material I need on DFU
and
system utilities. But as I don't have PC Support/36 program media, I'm
going to have to do this from a PC running an 8" driver rather than
natively.
To that end I've gathered up references to the IBM 2D disk format and
a
workstation where we're setting up a Catweasel controller and Shugart
8"
drive. I'm aware of a number of utilities for forensics and disk
control.
Has anyone done this particular combination before? developed scripts?
made cwfloppy modules for decoding the format? Any suggestions and
guidance
would be welcome.
I'd also love to find a copy of PC Support/36 so that theoretically we
could natively copy the files using 5250 workstation emulation. There
is a
5362 system available to rebuild, and I have the SSP media to do the
job.
I also have an IBM P70 with a 5250 emulator card and software which
could
be used as the PC workstation, but I'm not aware of a source for this
particular application media.
Thanks,
Colin Eby
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As to USB connectors.... I'm 99% sure that Keystone and Switchcraft
are still made in the USA. A wide variety of more industrial (not
so much consumer) plugs and jacks are still made in the USA by other
respected names, too.
Tim.
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2011 10:53:17 -0400
From: "Roy J. Tellason, Sr." <rtellason at verizon.net>
Subject: *NEW* C64!
To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
Message-ID: <201104091053.17812.rtellason at verizon.net>
Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii
heh...
http://finance.yahoo.com/family-home/article/112510/new-commodore-64-nyt
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2011 08:43:32 -0700
From: "Chuck Guzis" <cclist at sydex.com>
Subject: Re: *NEW* C64!
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
<cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Message-ID: <4DA01C34.14866.36E9DC at cclist.sydex.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
On 9 Apr 2011 at 10:53, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote:
I wonder how many support calls they'll get when customers try to
shove old 5.25" C64 floppies into the CD slot...
To my eye, the proportions of the thing don't look quite right. It
looks quite a bit "thicker" (i.e. vertical dimension) than the
original C64.
So what's next? A S/360-40 lookalike with a P4 motherboard tucked
inside?
--Chuck
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2011 12:13:54 -0400
From: Dan Gahlinger <dgahling at hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: *NEW* C64!
To: <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Message-ID: <BLU139-W35EC7C1E7F15B806E3F5ECC9A60 at phx.gbl>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
first of all, its vaporware - doesn't exist yet (taking orders does
not
mean product).
secondly, just because it looks like a c64, doesn't make it a c64
its a PC running emulation software and cannot read or write real c64
disks
either 1581 or 1541and you couldn't connect such a drive and make it
work.
why not just buy a mini pc for $100-$300 and run the emulation
software
yourself?
oh, yeah it wouldn't look like a c64? ok, paint it.
anyone who buys one of these is a moron ;)
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: OT: Incandescent lamps get a reprieve, possiblly
(Curt @ Atari Museum)
2. Re: Advice on Lisa 2 restoration (John Robertson)
3. DEC docs and machines available, Suffolk, UK (Adrian Graham)
4. New rsync mirroring at trailing-edge.com (Tim Shoppa)
5. Re: US manufacturing (was OT: Incandescent lamps get a
reprieve, possiblly) (Tim Shoppa)
6. *NEW* C64! (Roy J. Tellason, Sr.)
7. Re: *NEW* C64! (Chuck Guzis)
8. RE: *NEW* C64! (Dan Gahlinger)
9. Quantum leap in disk storage discovered! (Tom)
10. Re: *NEW* C64! (Curt @ Atari Museum)
11. Re: *NEW* C64! (Cameron Kaiser)
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2011 01:26:35 -0400
From: "Curt @ Atari Museum" <curt at atarimuseum.com>
Subject: Re: OT: Incandescent lamps get a reprieve, possiblly
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
<cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Message-ID: <4D9FEE0B.4070009 at atarimuseum.com>
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I have a bunch of desktop reflow ovens for assembly, the CFL's do NOT
like them at all, they all start to rapidly dim during the HEAT
process
of the ovens, not sure - must be a lot of noise or something, the
ovens
are on a different circuit so its not a voltage drain.
Philip Pemberton wrote:
On 09/04/11 01:38, Curt @ Atari Museum wrote:
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2011 13:47:57 -0700
From: John Robertson <pinball at telus.net>
Subject: Re: Advice on Lisa 2 restoration
To: General Discussion: On-Topic Posts Only <cctech at classiccmp.org>
Message-ID: <4D9F747D.9000701 at telus.net>
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Steven Hirsch wrote:
I have my plastics for my joysticks done out of
Indiana, my PCB's
from a
firm in Utah, I source my IC's and components from Mouser. The only
things I can't get here in the US are my custom silicon contact
parts,
there is no money in them, so nobody seems to want to do them and I
can't find anyone in the US that actually MAKES, not sells USB
cables,
all the companies source them in from China, so I buy those direct.
All of the assembly is done here in NY and shipped.
Unfortunately it seems most of the UK manufacturing companies have
gone bust, and the few who are left aren't really interested in
small-scale work unless you're willing to pay well over the market
rate...
The Eurocircuits boards were fairly reasonably priced, and much
better
quality than the Gold Phoenix boards -- the soldermask is lighter,
but
WAY thicker and tougher. On some of the early prototypes (before I
perfected the reflow profile) the soldermask started to split and
crack around the FPGA.
Curiously enough, I never had that problem with the Eurocircuits
boards, even with the "omigosh it's burning!" reflow profile. Neither
board type took well to being pre-baked, though -- it's a pretty easy
way to oxidise the plating. Fixing that mess was great fun and
involved a bottle of metal polish, two bottles of PCB cleaner and one
of those brown rubber PCB cleaning blocks...
Ick. Not gonna do that again.
Hi,
I have two Lisa 2s in my possession that both exhibit serious
corrision from battery leakage. One is simply bad, the other is
about
the worst such situation I've ever laid eyes on.
I was able to remove the battery packs to halt the degradation, but
before I make a bad situation worse I thought I'd ask for some advice
on how to proceed.
I'm also trying to work out what the units might be worth. The deal
with the seller is that I'm free to evaluate their condition and
attempt to get one working unit out of the two. Assuming a nominally
functional Lisa 2 with functional 10MB ProFile and fair cosmetic
condition, what do folks think is a fair price for that unit (the
owner wants whatever is left back, functioning or not)?
Prices on eBay are really all over the map, so that's not of much
help.
Steve
Depending on the type of rechargable battery used in your Lisa you
should consider doing something to avoid corrosion on the circuit
boards. I wrote a page on dealing with batteries for Pinballs and
Jukeboxes, but the info applies to anything that is battery powered.
http://flippers.com/battery.html
If the battery was Ni-Cad, then the stuff that leaked out was an
alkalye
(base) and should be neutralized with a mild acid (white vinegar & h20
50/50) then rinsed and dried thoroughly.
You really want to deal with this sooner, rather than later...
John :-#(#
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2011 00:01:34 +0100
From: Adrian Graham <witchy at binarydinosaurs.co.uk>
Subject: DEC docs and machines available, Suffolk, UK
To: "Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at
classiccmp.org>
Cc: chris bailey <chr15bailey at yahoo.co.uk>
Message-ID: <C9C5525E.2FBC3%witchy at binarydinosaurs.co.uk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Folks,
Please see this email from Chris Bailey and reply directly to him if
interested. There's some really nice stuff in this collection of
largely
docs and maintenance spares, but also some VAXstations, cables (mostly
serial BC03M/BC22D and thinwire), diagnostic floppies, VAX TU58s, a
microfiche reader with quite a few fiches, and entire box of spare
LS74
type
chips, a bag of what looks like drive belts, rack kits for BA35x
shelves, 2
BA23 backplanes, 3 boxes of 115v fans etc.
I can go back and hold things for a while for interested parties but I
have
limited space myself these days :/
Some pix: (all between 300-600kb jpg)
http://f0p.co.uk/DEChaul01.jpg
http://f0p.co.uk/DEChaul02.jpg
http://f0p.co.uk/DEChaul03.jpg
http://f0p.co.uk/DEChaul04.jpg
http://f0p.co.uk/DEChaul05.jpg
http://f0p.co.uk/DEChaul06.jpg
http://f0p.co.uk/DEChaul07.jpg
http://f0p.co.uk/DEChaul08.jpg
http://f0p.co.uk/DEChaul09.jpg
http://f0p.co.uk/DEChaul10.jpg
http://f0p.co.uk/DEChaul11.jpg
http://f0p.co.uk/DEChaul12.jpg
http://f0p.co.uk/DEChaul13.jpg
There's a cutoff date of 21st April since Chris doesn't live where the
kit
currently is, also there's more VAX docs and probably other spares up
in
the
loft of the house that haven't been discovered yet. Note I've already
picked
up the Pro350s (well, 2 Pro350s and one VAX Console) because I don't
have
one and I know someone else who is looking for one.
Cheers, and please help save this collection!
--
Adrian/Witchy
Binary Dinosaurs creator/curator
Www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the UK's biggest private home computer
collection?
Message from chris bailey (chr15bailey at yahoo.co.uk) on April 7th, 2011
at
01:27PM (BST).
Hi, Im emailing you to see if you are interested in a load of vintage
Digital Equipment Corporation computers etc.
My dad has now passed away, but he was a DEC engineer for 20+years.
He
amassesd a whole load of DEC computers bits when he retired.
We are now clearing out the garage but are not sure what to do with
all
this
computer stuff, and just thought we'd see if anyone wants any of it
before
throwing it out.
Here is a brief list of whats in the garage.
TZ85
BA350 MA (X3)
VAXSTATION 3100 (X2)
VS42A-SN (X2)
DEC PRO 350 (X3)
LN08-A3-SN (LAZER PRINTER)
RZ55-F3 (X2)
TK50Z-63
HZ821-00 (dismantled state)
V3201 (small monitor)
VR297D3 (Big monitor)
SC01-E (microfiche reader + inc microfiches)
MICROVAX II (large)
There are numerous boxes of manuals,disks, cables,circuit boards etc.
A quick reply would be appreciated if you would like to have any of
this,
otherwise it will go to the tip.
We live not far from Ipswich (Martlesham Heath) in Suffolk.
Regards.
Chris Bailey.
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2011 09:10:12 -0400
From: shoppa at trailing-edge.com (Tim Shoppa)
Subject: New rsync mirroring at trailing-edge.com
To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
Message-ID: <20110409131013.045771E02A8 at mini-me.trailing-edge.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Last weekend I promised to enable rsync access to the archives
(and mirrors) here.
I've set up the following rsync (no password required) archive sets
here:
ftp : Public rsync access to ftp://ftp.trailing-edge.com/ area
pdp-10-tape-images : public rsync access to the PDP-10 tape images,
i.e. http://pdp-10.trailing-edge.com/
bitsavers-mirror : public rsync access to my local bitsavers mirror,
i.e.
http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/
Suggested rsync commands would be, for example:
mkdir ./pdp-10-tape-images
rsync -rlptu -v www.trailing-edge.com::pdp-10-tape-images
./pdp-10-tape-images
mkdir ./ftp.trailing-edge.com
rsync -rlptu -v www.trailing-edge.com::ftp ./ftp.trailing-edge.com
mkdir ./bitsavers-mirror
rsync -rlptu -v www.trailing-edge.com::bitsavers-mirror
./bitsavers-mirror
Realistically the pdp-10-tape-images and ftp sites don't change often,
butm my bitsavers mirror is kept up to date.
I like to think my outgoing bandwidth (20 Mbit) is pretty much
infinite,
this looks like a good way to find out :-)
ftp racks up to 3.5 Gbytes. PDP-10 tapes racks up to 2.2 Gbytes. And
bitsavers-mirror racks up to 126 Gbytes.
Tim.
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2011 10:03:22 -0400
From: shoppa at trailing-edge.com (Tim Shoppa)
Subject: Re: US manufacturing (was OT: Incandescent lamps get a
reprieve, possiblly)
To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
Message-ID: <20110409140322.D34571E02A4 at mini-me.trailing-edge.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>> I can't find anyone in the US that
actually MAKES, not sells USB
cables,
> all
the companies source them in from China, so I buy those direct.
Unfortunately it seems most of the UK
manufacturing companies have
gone
bust, and the few who are left aren't really interested in
small-scale
work unless you're willing to pay well over the market rate...
Same here.
The once-mighty American manufacturing industry is all
but dead. It's pretty sad. Now China owns our asses. From: cclist at sydex.com
To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2011 08:43:32 -0700
Subject: Re: *NEW* C64!
On 9 Apr 2011 at 10:53, Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote:
I wonder how many support calls they'll get when customers try to
shove old 5.25" C64 floppies into the CD slot...
To my eye, the proportions of the thing don't look quite right. It
looks quite a bit "thicker" (i.e. vertical dimension) than the
original C64.
So what's next? A S/360-40 lookalike with a P4 motherboard tucked
inside?
--Chuck
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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2011 11:05:53 -0500
From: Tom <a50mhzham at gmail.com>
Subject: Quantum leap in disk storage discovered!
To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
Message-ID: <4da08602.015de70a.014e.7372 at mx.google.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed
Way off topic, sorry, just couldn't resist.
News from our fellow IT industry workers in
Russia: The chinese have invented a disk drive
that allows you to write an infinite amount of
data to it! Discovered by a Russian engineer. Be
sure to click the 2nd picture for a close-up look
at this amazing new technology.
http://blog.jitbit.com/2011/04/chinese-magic-drive.html
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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2011 12:39:31 -0400
From: "Curt @ Atari Museum" <curt at atarimuseum.com>
Subject: Re: *NEW* C64!
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
<cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Message-ID: <4DA08BC3.5040905 at atarimuseum.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
It may have to be a little different in the dimensions to accomodate
the
Mini ITX motherboard that is inside of it. Its a great idea, but
the pricing seems very high.
Chuck Guzis wrote:
On 9 Apr 2011 at 10:53, Roy J. Tellason, Sr.
wrote:
I wonder how many support calls they'll get when customers try to
shove old 5.25" C64 floppies into the CD slot...
To my eye, the proportions of the thing don't look quite right. It
looks quite a bit "thicker" (i.e. vertical dimension) than the
original C64.
So what's next? A S/360-40 lookalike with a P4 motherboard tucked
inside?
--Chuck
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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2011 09:48:12 -0700 (PDT)
From: Cameron Kaiser <spectre at floodgap.com>
Subject: Re: *NEW* C64!
To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
Message-ID: <201104091648.p39GmCi9014988 at floodgap.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
I wonder how many support calls they'll get
when customers try to
shove old 5.25" C64 floppies into the CD slot...
I'd rather have the Chameleon. Neat, and isn't vapourware.
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