PCB CAD Programs

Hi, A couple years ago when I was getting back into circuit design I looked into a few packages in some detail. I came to the same conclusion about ExpressPCB, it's just too limited. I looked into Eagle, and while it's popular on the web and very functional, I found the user interface just too clunky to deal with. It's clear it started life as a DOS program, and the designers just haven't moved it forward. I finally settled on Target 3001. It's done by a small crew in Germany. While it has it's small quirks, it's very complete (it has an auto-router!) and quite easy to use. The parts library is reasonably extensive, though it does have a distinctive European accent. Here's the URL: http://www.ibfriedrich.com/english/ When I was actively using it a year or two ago the customer support was fantastic: email questions answered in a day or two, and in one case where'd I found a bug, they sent a new executable with a fix the next day! They have a free download for small designs (< 200 pins/pads), I've done fairly extensive designs with the "smart" edition (< 700 pins/pads) for less than $200. This version outputs standard Gerber files you can send to any PCB fab house. There's also a free version that outputs exclusively to a European PCB house (www.pcb-pool.com) The card for the PDP-11/70 panel controller I did a few years ago was done in Target 3001: http://www.saccade.com/writing/projects/PDP11/PDP-11.html I'd be very interested to hear feedback on other similar CAD packages - it's very difficult to find review material on stuff like this. Cheers, jp