e.stiebler wrote:
bfranchuk at jetnet.ab.ca wrote:
I want to cry out ... Real hardware I want It.
Can new bit slice version of the hardware be built?
Also did any of the 'Wirth' languages have plans for 32 bit data
and adresses?
And I really thought you would ask for a 24 bit version ;-)
Now that you ask ... :)
The reason I was asking is that Pascal and Modula 2 and Smalltalk
all had a great deal of hype in BYTE about the mid 1980's. Then they
all seemed to vanish as the PC's and the Mac's took over the Personal
Computer market place.
I grew up using real hardware -- PDP/8e,PDP8/S, IBM 1130. Even snuck
in some time on a VAX. I don't mind people writing emulators but I feel
hardware just has a better HANDS on feel for what machine can do.
I have to some day get a REAL terminal (Hardware) so I can get my
PDP 8 clone runing with the right feel. TTL and BIT Slice design I can
handle but software for a small machine is out of my ball park.
I expect to spend about 2 grand on a one of a kind homebrew
but then I will have learned a little about hardware from the mid 1980's.
I am playing around now with a 20 bit machine, since all I have is
21 flat handle toggle switches for a hardware front panel. I ordered
24 but they goofed and sent 3 momentary switches instead.
I could design a 16 bit machine, but then I am back to the classic
architecture with a single AC: {OP}{INDIRECT}{ADDRESS}.
All most all the modern Instruction Sets are from the late 1970's
and they are very complex -- 68000,8088/8086 ect.
I am looking for design in the middle, and even that is hard since
BIPOLAR PROM is very hard to find nowdays.I am using a CPLD
since I have one rather than 4 - 512x8 PROM's.