Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2016 20:44:26 +0200
 From: supervinx <supervinx at libero.it>
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 Subject: Re: R: RE: RSX-11M trouble
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 Il giorno dom, 03/04/2016 alle 19.33 +0200, supervinx ha scritto:
  Il giorno dom, 03/04/2016 alle 14.59 +0200,
supervinx ha scritto:
  Hmmm.... RSX-11Mplus 4.2 aren't recognized as
TSK images by "normal" 4.2 
 Well... the files have been correctly
transferred... i did a DMP on both
 sides
 so definitely I need a 4.2 non plus. 
 I SYSGENed the 4.8 image on simh, and
transferred ICP.TSK, just to do
 another try...
 The newly inserted task, showed the same parameters, using TAL ...AT.,
 but issuing a @command causes the same big crash, dropping me on the
 initial ODT monitor.
 I did another test, with DMP.
 Only three blocks of the original ICP.TSK are unreadable:
 o73, o107, and o177 (all numbers are in octal), with the usuale I/O
 error -101, and no mention in ELI DU0:/SH
 I'm angry: the damaged ICP.TSK is TCP.TSK;3 and I did a purge to make
 room on the disk the first day I got it. Can't remember if another
 version was present...
 I've a couple of questions:
 1)VFY gives me two error I can't clearly understand.
        000541,000226   owner [1,54]
        file is marked for delete
        000647,000000
        I/O error reading file header -101
 How can I associate xxxxxx,yyyyyy to a file name?
 I tried PIP /FI:xxxxxx:yyyyyy/LI with no luck 
This is a good question but I do not know the answer.
 2) the .tpc images found in the net, if converted to .tap, are suitable
 for use in TU85em? Having no tape unit, I could try to install
 everything from scratch using a tape emulator. 
I would use Simh to boot a BRUSYS
tape then copy the tapes to make a
bootable disk.
 But the best would be to have 4.2 (*not* plus) tape images or someone
 with a running installation so kind to give me the four damaged files.
 VFY seems not to be able to repair the FS...
 Thanks 
   The closest RSX11M (not Plus) distribution I can find is an RL01 distribution of RSX11M
V4.1
Since it is disk and not tape it can be directly booted with Simh and it does have a
ICP.TSK
that should be pretty compatible with V4.2 since it is from V4.1 Baseline.
You can find this RSX11M V4.1 distribution at:
ftp://ftp.trailing-edge.com/pub/rsxdists/rsx11mplus_4_0_netkit_aq-ew97b-bc.…
It will unzip into 6 RL01 disk images and 3 update E disk images.
Below I mapped the first two disks and found a copy of ICP.TSK
on the 1 disk which is a Baseline image that should run on a range
of different hardware.
sim> sh rl
RL      RLV12, address=17774400-17774411, vector=160, 4 units
  RL0   2621KW, attached to rsx11m41_1of6_rsxm35.ax-d518e-bc, on line
        write enabled, RL01
  RL1   2621KW, attached to rsx11m41_2of6_excprv.ax-d521e-bc, on line
        write enabled, RL01
  RL2   2621KW, attached to rsx11m41_3of6_rlutil.ax-d522f-bc, on line
        write enabled, RL01
  RL3   2621KW, attached to rsx11m41_4of6_mcrsrc.ax-h927f-bc, on line
        write enabled, RL01
sim> b rl0
  RSX-11M V4.1 BL35   124.K MAPPED (BASELINE)
 RED DL:=SY:
RED DL:=LB:
MOU DL:RSXM35
@DL:[1,2]STARTUP
* PLEASE ENTER TIME AND DATE (HR:MN DD-MMM-YY) [S]: 20:36 5-APR-86
TIM 20:36 5-APR-86
* ENTER LINE WIDTH OF THIS TERMINAL [D D:132.]:
SET /BUF=TI:132.
ACS SY:/BLKS=512.
@ <EOF>
mou dl1:/ovr/pub/vi 
Volume Information
Class:       Files-11
Device:      DL01
Volume label:EXCPRV
Pack serial: 00000273341
Owner:       [1,1]
Protection:  [RWCD,RWCD,RWCD,RWCD]
Default:     [RWED,RWED,RWED,R]
Processor:   F11ACP
 ins $pip
pip [1,54]i*.tsk/li 
Directory DL0:[1,54]
22-APR-83 18:16
ICP.TSK;1           142.    C  22-APR-83 17:48
INI.TSK;1           58.     C  22-APR-83 17:48
INS.TSK;1           60.     C  22-APR-83 17:48
Total of 260./260. blocks in 3. files
 from the RL01 image you should be able to PUTR read and
then write to an RX50 
as you have done before.
Good Luck,
Mark