--- Tony Duell <ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> I find
the
http://www.hpmuseum.net/ site to be
more
> useful for these
> larger machines. Not as many pictures, but
plenty of
useful
manuals.
Er, actually that was the one I meant :)
The 'trick' is to click on the 'docuemtation' link
on the homepage, you
then get a list of all the manuals that are
available. It's a lot easier
than rememebring which sub-section a particular
manual is hidden in.
Either the search function is better, or I'm less apt
to ignore what's under my nose. I do a search for
"PC-305", and don't get that, but a way to get to
*that*. A terribly interesting group of PC's if you
ask me, and unfortunately my 305 didn't include as
stock the BASIC Language Interpreter board (HP-IB). In
fact, my didn't even come with the processor board!
Only the graphics card! Ah well, maybe I can use the
processor card from an AT & T 6300.
> Err,
I've got a PDP8/e + TU56 DECtape + PC04
paper
tape on
my desk...
An 8/e? Meant to be rackmounted I would think.
You
That's the one... I didn't have a spare rack at the
time, so it ended up
on my desk
Are your capacitors oozing out all over the place?
The one I had the pleasure of perusing had that
problem. Still ran though.
I wasn't
commenting on *user friendliness* so
much as
the *introduction* of the term "off the
shelf".
Actually it was first introduced in the original
post
I guess! So I stand to be corrected. So if we go
back
and ask if the TRS-80 was the first OTS
micro...truth
is the assumption may be correct. But it
wasn't
the
first micro (pre-packaged, easy to use,
complete,
woteva, etc.).
What is the definition of 'off the shelf'? I don't
take it literally to
mean you could necessarily go into a shop and take
one 'off the shelf'.
To me, if the machine came ready-to-use in a
standard configuration,
that's ;off the shelf' even if it was only available
by mail order.
Me too, but if you want to get technical, off the
shelf should be taken literally (w/argument). I don't
think it's relevant if you could walk out w/it or have
it come in the mail.
The TRS-80
did in fact introduce a great many
people
to the micro due to it's wide availability,
but
Ture. As I said earlier, it was the first computer I
ever programmed. I
do have something of a soft spot for TRS-80s, but
equally, I don't like
to see history re-written.
As do I. I don't particularly have a soft spot for
Tandy Corp though. I haven't forgiven them for what
they did to David R (I wonder if he's still around?).
Alright I'll give it away. He was the author of the
Tandy 2000 Whimper newsletter.
probably not
as wide as it could have due to a
stigma
often associated with them. The line was so
stagnant -
besides the CoCos (that must have carried the
TRS-80
badge) the only other unit that had color
capability I
guess was the model 2000. None of the
"classic"
I really don't see this love of colour or
graphics....
So you're not an art lover of any sort either?
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