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9. RE: Older wordprocessing software (Evan R. Pauley) 10. Re: Kinda OT: DEC 3000 Model 300 AXP Memory (Doc) 11. RE: rare TRS-80 model 3 ?? (Witchy) 12. Re: Kinda OT: DEC 3000 Model 300 AXP Memory (Jochen Kunz) 13. Re: Older wordprocessing software (Jochen Kunz) 14. re: Older wordprocessing software (Eric F.) 15. Re: iUP-201 PC software (Joe) 16. TI 990 Page and simulator (James B. DiGriz) 17. re: Older wordprocessing software (Gene Ehrich) 18. Commodore CBM/PET in Terminator 3 (Frank Palazzolo) 19. Re: Commodore CBM/PET in Terminator 3 (Mark Firestone) 20. Re: Older wordprocessing software (Bryan Pope) 21. RE: Older wordprocessing software (Feldman, Robert) 22. Re: Older wordprocessing software (Gene Ehrich) 23. Re: Older wordprocessing software (Jay West) 24. Re: M220B (PDP-8/I) schematics available (Ethan Dicks) 25. Wanted: RL02 Working... (cvendel(a)att.net) 26. Re: Older wordprocessing software (Fred Cisin)

27. Items available (Bradley, Joel E -Syntegra US) 28. American Automation EZ-Pro development system (Arlen Michaels) 29. Kontron LA 32A hard drive? (Tom Owad) 30. Re: American Automation EZ-Pro development system (Douglas Wood) 31. RE: rare TRS-80 model 3 ?? (Hans Franke) 32. RE: Kinda OT: DEC 3000 Model 300 AXP Memory (Antonio Carlini) 33. SCSI bit-banging (emanuel stiebler) 34. Re: M220B (PDP-8/I) schematics available (Bob Shannon) 35. Re: American Automation EZ-Pro development system (Arlen Michaels) 36. New Finds: SWTPC :-) (Joe) 37. /35 /40/ 45 ? (Rod Young) 38. Re: Looking for new maintainer for DECVAX.ORG and PDP11.ORG (Mark Tapley) 39. Re: /35 /40/ 45 ? (Zane H. Healy) 40. Re: /35 /40/ 45 ? (Jay West) 41. Re: Commodore CBM/PET in Terminator 3 (Cameron Kaiser) 42. Re: /35 /40/ 45 ? (Rod Young) 43. Re: Older wordprocessing software (XyWrite) (Eric F.) 44. PC-7221 (Paul Brodie) 45. Up for bid - More 'classic' goodies (Bruce Lane)

46. hp 5036A Lab (roy.harbert(a)adelphia.net) 47. Re: Older wordprocessing software (=?iso-8859-1?q?Jules=20Richardson?=) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2003 20:52:17 -0400 From: Dave Mabry <dmabry(a)mich.com> To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: iUP-201 PC software Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org There was an ISIS-based program from Intel for the iUP 201. In fact, that's what Intel supported it first under. The MS-DOS version came much later. The program is called IPPS. I can e-mail the ISIS version to whoever wants it. I have to look around for the DOS version, but I should have it, too. Joe wrote: > Hey Dwight, > > If you write something, I'd like to get a copy too. I finally got a > working iuP 201. BTW I've been thinking of making a PC interface for the > UPP 103. I've finally got some docs on it and found out that it only uses > about six commands; three writes, two reads and one read status. I don't

-- Dave Mabry dmabry(a)mich.com Dossin Museum Underwater Research Team --__--__-- Message: 2 Subject: Re: Kinda OT: DEC 3000 Model 300 AXP Memory To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 22:02:06 -0700 (PDT) From: "Zane H. Healy" <healyzh(a)aracnet.com> Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org I'm not sure, but I think it's just over 10 years old, if not, as you say it's pretty close. > I have a DEC 3000 Model 300 AXP which is currently sitting idle -- it has

You can run it in 64MB, but it isn't fun. You're sure that it uses 72-pin? I'm honestly not sure, I know that the 3000/300LX does, but the 3000/x00 (can't remember the exact model) that a friend has sitting in my Living room till she finds a drive for it, uses

proprietary RAM. Anyway, I've used various 72-pin FPM SIMMs in my Alpha's and haven't had any problems that I can think of. Which isn't to say that you won't have problems. The other question is, can it handle 32MB SIMMs, and how many do you have to add at once? BTW, 128MB is probably more than enough to just play. Do you deal with anyone that scraps PC's? I'm using some RAM out of Pentium Pro's in a couple of my Alpha's. Zane --__--__-- Message: 3 Subject: RE: Teh over priced Mark-8/IBM 5100 is back Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 12:10:55 +1000 From: "Kane, David (DPRS)" <David.Kane(a)aph.gov.au> To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org I think we should give this guy his very own wet dream. I will bid one MILLION dollars for it (left small finger in mouth), and someone else can bid a few buck less. That should be a good laugh for him. David

-----Original Message----- From: Dwight K. Elvey [mailto:dwightk.elvey@amd.com] Sent: Tuesday, 8 July 2003 9:06 AM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Teh over priced Mark-8/IBM 5100 is back "He's Back!" It looks like the same fellow with a new name. That'd be my guess. Who was it that contacted eBay last time? Maybe he should drop them another note. As a side question, weren't most of the front panels for the Mark-8's home made. In which case you couldn't use someone else's photo. Dwight photos y=12> >it than to buy it!)

--__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 20:21:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Fred Cisin <cisin(a)xenosoft.com> To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Replacement CFX-200 Buttons Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org On Sun, 29 Jun 2003, Robbie Sanders wrote: There is a CFX-20 on eBay: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/ebayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewItem&item=2644… The 40 and 400 are interchangeable (and they have hex arithmetic) Are the 20 and 200 interchangeable? --__--__-- Message: 5 Subject: Looking for Digital Channel Server II (DESNB) To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 22:36:27 -0500 (CDT) From: dittman(a)dittman.net (Eric Dittman) Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org Does anyone have an old Digital Channel Server II (DESNB) sitting around unused? If so, please let me know. I have someone that needs one and is willing to pay if it works. -- Eric Dittman

dittman(a)dittman.net --__--__-- Message: 6 Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 00:42:06 -0400 To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org From: Roger Merchberger <zmerch(a)30below.com> Subject: Kinda OT: DEC 3000 Model 300 AXP Memory Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org I don't think this machine is *quite* 10 years old yet, but it's pretty close -- and it's 'different' enough that hopefully I won't get flamed... I have a DEC 3000 Model 300 AXP which is currently sitting idle -- it has Tru64 Unix 5.0 on it currently, and 64Meg of RAM. I was thinking of putting Alpha VMS 7.1 instead, for to start learning VMS again (someday... :-O ) and I recall saying that Alpha VMS is much happier in more than 64M Ram, so I was thinking of upgrading it. I do know that it uses 'standard' 72-pin Parity FPM Memory - but what I don't know is: how finicky is the machine? Will just any Parity memory work, or is it limited to certain manufacturers? I have a supplier that has

used 32M Parity 72-pin FPM memory for $6/stick -- a decent price comparatively - I've seen it at $30+ per stick, which would make a memory upgrade cost more than the machine itself... I have no idea what they have for manufacturers of the memory - these guys prolly don't, either. It's a reputable company (I've ordered from them before) but they don't get too deep with the specifics. (WRT another OT thread: They have 3Com 905C-TX NICS for $10 each...) Should I take the chance and order the memory, or would it be foolhardy to do so? Thanks, Roger "Merch" Merchberger --__--__-- Message: 7 Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 22:26:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Ethan Dicks <erd_6502(a)yahoo.com> Subject: Re: M220B (PDP-8/I) schematics available To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org --- Robert Krten <root(a)parse.com> wrote: > For those of you who missed the announcement in alt.sys.pdp8, > I've now almost completed the M220 version B schematic. It's > available at: >

Cool! Thanks! I have a few M220 cards that will eventually benefit from your efforts (I borrowed them from a parts machine to keep the main machines running). That's been my experience, too. I have replaced as many as 8 7474s at a go to get an -8/L back on its feet. I don't recall replacing any other chip, as a matter of fact. -ethan --__--__-- Message: 8 Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2003 23:14:14 -0700 From: Jim Davis <jpdavis(a)gorge.net> To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: M220B (PDP-8/I) schematics available Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org Ethan Dicks wrote: >--- Robert Krten <root(a)parse.com> wrote: > > >>For those of you who missed the announcement in alt.sys.pdp8, >>I've now almost completed the M220 version B schematic. It's >>available at: >>

7474's Dead d flops? whats the story on that? Jim --__--__-- Message: 9 From: "Evan R. Pauley" <evan(a)flextech.net> To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> Subject: RE: Older wordprocessing software Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 01:48:36 -0500 Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org Jules, I still have most of those old versions of WordPerfect 5.1 DOS, WordPerfect

6.0 for both DOS and Windows (the file formats are identical, BTW), MS Office 4.3 for Win3x, AmiPro/Samna, and even (gasp) MultiMate. I have *several* copies of the WordPerfect 5.1 manuals, along with some old Lotus 1-2-3 v2.3 and Harvard Graphics manuals (and the software for those also). Personally, I was a WordPerfect aficionado (because of the DOS/WIN file format matching). Hated Word, and used AmiPro/Samna for legal documents (best on the planet back then). Most are on 5-1/4", a few are on 3-1/2", and Office is on CD. Let me know privately what you need and we'll work out a way to get it to you. Evan Pauley ---------- You wrote: Hi all, perhaps pusing the boundaries of off-topicness here a little, but... I'm taking suggestions for wordprocessing software to run on an older 486 laptop (1994, so almost within the 10 year limit!) that's running Windows 3.11 ... I still use the machine for a bit of wordprocessing ocassionally (such as it is

with Windows Write), and better software would be nice. The laptop's handy for taking stuff down on before formatting things 'properly' on a more modern desktop. I remember Ami Pro being quite reasonable on a similar spec desktop machine, but my copy went to tape years ago and around half of the old tapes of mine that I found recently are no longer readable :-( Suggestions of alternative software welcome though... cheers Jules --__--__-- Message: 10 Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 02:21:13 -0500 From: Doc <doc(a)mdrconsult.com> To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Kinda OT: DEC 3000 Model 300 AXP Memory Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org Roger Merchberger wrote: > I do know that it uses 'standard' 72-pin Parity FPM Memory - but what I > don't know is: how finicky is the machine? Will just any Parity memory > work, or is it limited to certain manufacturers? I have a supplier that > has used 32M Parity 72-pin FPM memory for $6/stick -- a decent price

There are a bunch of different 3000/300 models. The 3000/300X and the 3000/300 both take commodity 36-bit parity SIMMs. My 3k/300X is running RAM from a Mac, from a DEC "Jensen", and from Goodwill. The best thumbnail reference directory I've found are on the DEC/Linux pages: http://www.phys.ufl.edu/~prescott/linux/alpha/dec3000-sysinfo.html Doc --__--__-- Message: 11 From: "Witchy" <witchy(a)binarydinosaurs.co.uk> To: <cctech(a)classiccmp.org> Subject: RE: rare TRS-80 model 3 ?? Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 10:17:12 +0100 Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org > -----Original Message----- > From: cctech-admin(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctech-admin@classiccmp.org]On > Behalf Of Mail List > Sent: 07 July 2003 03:25 > To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: RE: rare TRS-80 model 3 ?? > > Might depend on what environment it was designed for. If for home

It just seems odd that the machine itself was set for 110V whereas its printer is exclusively 240V: http://www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk/dmp100.jpg Of course, I'm only assuming it belonged to the machine because everything came from the same yard sale - Model 3 with plastic cover, DMP100 printer with plastic cover, cassette deck and a box of paper..... cheers -- adrian/witchy www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the online computer museum www.snakebiteandblack.co.uk - monthly gothic shenanigans --__--__-- Message: 12 Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 11:14:03 +0200 From: Jochen Kunz <jkunz(a)unixag-kl.fh-kl.de> To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Kinda OT: DEC 3000 Model 300 AXP Memory Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org On 2003.07.08 06:42 Roger Merchberger wrote:

It should accept any FPM parity (36 bit) SIMMs. One bank consists of two SIMMs. In fact, it uses long word parity, i.e 33 bit SIMMs like the AS500. I think it can use only 8 MB and 32 MB SIMMs. Well. By two SIMMs, look if they work and by additional 6 if they do. I have a 300X with 256 MB RAM, thats nice. In an other mail Zane isn't sure if it uses 72 pin SIMMs or proprietary RAM. All models of DEC 3000-300 use 72 pin SIMMs. The DEC 3000-[456789]00 models use very special 100 pin SIMMs and they need 8 per bank. -- tschüß, Jochen Homepage: http://www.unixag-kl.fh-kl.de/~jkunz/ --__--__-- Message: 13 Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 10:41:32 +0200

From: Jochen Kunz <jkunz(a)unixag-kl.fh-kl.de> To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Older wordprocessing software Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org On 2003.07.07 15:32 Jules Richardson wrote: 1. Replace Windows with an operating system. E.g. Linux or NetBSD. (Especially the later runs very well on older hardware with non-GHz CPUs and only a few MB RAM.) You may skip this step if you are not willing to wrap your head around Unix. 2. LaTeX. Period. I used several WYSIWYG text processing software at that time (WordPerfect, AmiPro, StarWriter, ...) and they all sucked. Then I got into Unix and LaTeX and stayed there since then. LaTeX is not that easy to learn, but you get _very_ good results for your work. I think (La)TeX is the most bug free software on this planet. IIRC the LaTeX

distribution for WinDOS and OS/2 of that time was called EMTEX. If you are able to switch to Linux or NetBSD you can use the most recent teTeX. -- tschüß, Jochen Homepage: http://www.unixag-kl.fh-kl.de/~jkunz/ --__--__-- Message: 14 Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 02:26:01 -0700 To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org From: "Eric F." <elf(a)ucsd.edu> Subject: re: Older wordprocessing software Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org On Mon, Jul 7, 08:36:00, 2003, Jules Richardson wrote: XyWrite comes to mind: low resource requirements, yet oodles of formatting options. It takes a bit of time and practice to build up some speedy chops, so it may not be the panacea you're looking for. I do know, however, that

XyWrite's format can be successfully converted into (many of) today's common word processing formats. Regards, Eric --__--__-- Message: 15 Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 07:06:55 To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org From: Joe <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com> Subject: Re: iUP-201 PC software Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org I think I found an ISIS version of iPPS last night but I'd like to get he MS-DOS version if you have it. Do you have the pinout for the cable? Joe At 08:52 PM 7/7/03 -0400, you wrote: >There was an ISIS-based program from Intel for the iUP 201. In fact, >that's what Intel supported it first under. The MS-DOS version came >much later. The program is called IPPS. I can e-mail the ISIS version >to whoever wants it. I have to look around for the DOS version, but I >should have it, too. > >Joe wrote: > >> Hey Dwight, >> >> If you write something, I'd like to get a copy too. I finally got a

--__--__-- Message: 16 Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 07:47:01 -0400 From: "James B. DiGriz" <jbdigriz(a)dragonsweb.org> Organization: DragonsWeb Labs To: ti-990(a)yahoogroups.com, cctalk(a)classiccmp.org, swpb(a)yahoogroups.com, ti99-4a(a)yahoogroups.com Subject: TI 990 Page and simulator Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org

Dunno if everyone has seen this, but there is a fairly new 990 web page up by David PItts, who has written a simulator and cross-development tools for Linux and Windows. It might be interesting to take something like this, or M.E.S.S. or one of the other simulators, and reimplement the DX10 4A dev tools. Maybe somebody might even still have them around somewhere. Hmmm. http://www.cozx.com/~dpitts/ti990.html later, jbdigriz --__--__-- Message: 17 Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 08:20:50 -0400 To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org From: Gene Ehrich <gehrich(a)tampabay.rr.com> Subject: re: Older wordprocessing software Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org At 02:26 AM 7/8/2003 -0700, you wrote: What ever happened to XyWrite, was it acquired by another company? --__--__-- Message: 18 From: "Frank Palazzolo" <palazzol(a)comcast.net> To: <cctech(a)classiccmp.org> Subject: Commodore CBM/PET in Terminator 3

Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 08:45:34 -0400 Organization: Knarfian Labs Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org Anyone else spot that one near the end of the movie? It was one of the 80-column models. Not sure what any of the other "30-year old" computers were. -Frank --__--__-- Message: 19 Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 14:03:09 +0100 To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org From: Mark Firestone <nedry(a)mail.bedlambells.com> Subject: Re: Commodore CBM/PET in Terminator 3 Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org I haven't seen it yet, but Captain Kirk owns one! Check out Star Trek II... in his apartment... At 08:45 08/07/2003 -0400, you wrote: [---------] "Homer, we don't have to have sex." "Yes we do, the cookie told me so." "Deserts aren't always right Homer." "But they're so delicious." Website: retrobbs.org

BBS: telnet bbs.retrobbs.org 2323 Tradewars: telnet tradewars.retrobbs.org [---------] --__--__-- Message: 20 From: Bryan Pope &lt;bpope(a)wordstock.com&gt; Subject: Re: Older wordprocessing software To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 09:08:15 -0400 (edt) Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org And thusly Joe spake: Hey I forgot about that wonderful creation! But then there is also: C:>copy < document.txt (I think it goes this way...) Cheers, Bryan --__--__-- Message: 21 Subject: RE: Older wordprocessing software Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 07:21:55 -0600 From: "Feldman, Robert" &lt;Robert_Feldman(a)jdedwards.com&gt; To: &lt;cctalk(a)classiccmp.org&gt; Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org C>Copy con foo.txt<CR> Foo bar baz<CR> Testing^Z<CR> C> -----Original Message-----

From: Bryan Pope [mailto:bpope@wordstock.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 8:08 AM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Older wordprocessing software And thusly Joe spake: Hey I forgot about that wonderful creation! But then there is also: C:>copy < document.txt (I think it goes this way...) Cheers, Bryan --__--__-- Message: 22 Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 10:32:05 -0400 To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org From: Gene Ehrich &lt;gehrich(a)tampabay.rr.com&gt; Subject: Re: Older wordprocessing software Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org At 09:08 AM 7/8/2003 -0400, you wrote: I used DWA (Display Write Assistant) for years and it was an outstanding piece of software --__--__-- Message: 23 From: "Jay West" &lt;jwest(a)classiccmp.org&gt; To: &lt;cctalk(a)classiccmp.org&gt;

Subject: Re: Older wordprocessing software Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 09:38:22 -0500 Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org When I do have the need for word processing on my vintage boxes, I use SATURN on RT-11. Jay West ----- Original Message ----- From: Gene Ehrich To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 9:32 AM Subject: Re: Older wordprocessing software At 09:08 AM 7/8/2003 -0400, you wrote: I used DWA (Display Write Assistant) for years and it was an outstanding piece of software --__--__-- Message: 24 Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 07:59:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Ethan Dicks &lt;erd_6502(a)yahoo.com&gt; Subject: Re: M220B (PDP-8/I) schematics available To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org --- Jim Davis &lt;jpdavis(a)gorge.net&gt; wrote: > Ethan Dicks wrote: > >That's been my experience, too. I have replaced as many as 8 7474s > >at a go to get an -8/L back on its feet. I don't recall replacing

Dunno. I can say categorically that they were failed chips. They did not pass muster in a handheld TTL tester, and when replaced, the PDP-8/L worked. There was a mention on the list of a batch of 7440s that failed in another M-series machine (might or might not have been an -8/L) with the same date code. Not sure why 7474s from the mid-to-late 1960s would be more fragile than, say, 7400s. Perhaps the flipping and the flopping wears them out faster than anding and oring? :-) -ethan --__--__-- Message: 25 From: cvendel(a)att.net To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Wanted: RL02 Working... Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 16:04:55 +0000 Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org Hi everyone, I found a place on the East Coast selling RL02's and RLV12's for $120, anyone in the NJ/NY/CT/MA/RI area (basically anyone in like a 3hr driving radius of

me) have an RL02 they want to sell cheap??? I'd like to pick the unit up and save myself the $100 shipping charge (plus the worries of it bouncing around in the back of a UPS or Fedex Ground truck!) So I'd be willing to pay someone in my area $100 for a drive and $20 for an RLV12 if you have them and they are known working, please let me know, thanks!!! Also I'm still looking for an RM05 or CDC9976 300MB Disk Pak drive, if someone in my area has one that I could take on loan for 1 week and return for a $$$ Rental Fee, I'd be willing to work something out with them. Thanks, Curt --__--__-- Message: 26 Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 09:23:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Fred Cisin &lt;cisin(a)xenosoft.com&gt; To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Older wordprocessing software Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org On Tue, 8 Jul 2003, Bryan Pope wrote: copy con: document.txt

The colon is optional on most versions, but helps as a reminder that it is a device, and avoids problems if one manages to creat a file named CON. --__--__-- Message: 27 From: "Bradley, Joel E -Syntegra US" &lt;Joel.E.Bradley(a)syntegra.com&gt; To: &quot;&#39;cctalk(a)classiccmp.org&#39;&quot; &lt;cctalk(a)classiccmp.org&gt; Subject: Items available Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 12:50:33 -0500 Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org I have the following items available. Please e-mail me directly at joel.bradley(a)comcast.net if interested: Sony PIC-1000 Magic Link with software (PDA circa 1994) Control Data Corporation Cyber 960 Framed and Matted photograph (approx 24" x 20") Control Data Corporation Cyber 960 Matted photograph, No Frame (approx 24" x 20") Control Data Corporation 3 - Ring Binder (many available) Control Data Corporation White Coffee Mugs (individual or set available) Control Data Corporation Legal Pad portfolio, brown leather-like material. NICE!

Microsoft Excel 2.2 for Macintosh - MINT IN BOX, still shrinkwrapped! ------ Joel --__--__-- Message: 28 Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 15:22:11 -0400 Subject: American Automation EZ-Pro development system From: Arlen Michaels &lt;arlen(a)acm.org&gt; To: classiccmp &lt;cctalk(a)classiccmp.org&gt; Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org This microprocessor development system dating from the early 80s includes a hardware in-circuit emulator for the Motorola 68HC11. I'd like to get it running but I have no documents or software. Can anyone help? The main box is model number AA-547 and I believe it hooks up by serial cable to a host PC. Besides the external ICE hardware, there's also a small prom programmer box hanging off the system. Thanks in advance, Arlen Michaels --__--__-- Message: 29 From: Tom Owad &lt;owad(a)applefritter.com&gt; To: Classic Computer &lt;cctech(a)classiccmp.org&gt; Subject: Kontron LA 32A hard drive? Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 16:11:32 -0400 Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org

I have Kontron LA 32A Logic Analyzer that complains about no boot disk on startup. It has two drive bays, the first of which has a floppy drive and the second of which is empty. Does anybody know what software I'd need to get this running or would be willing to make copies? Thanks, Tom Applefritter www.applefritter.com --__--__-- Message: 30 From: "Douglas Wood" &lt;dbwood(a)kc.rr.com&gt; To: &lt;cctalk(a)classiccmp.org&gt; Subject: Re: American Automation EZ-Pro development system Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 15:27:56 -0500 Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org An 'HC11 emulator from the "early '80s"? I'm going from solely from memory here, but I don't think that the 'HC11 existed then. Do you possibly mean the 6805 series of microcontroller, perhaps? Douglas Wood Software Engineer dbwood(a)kc.rr.com ICQ#: 143841506 Home of the EPICIS Development System for the PIC http://epicis.piclist.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arlen Michaels" &lt;arlen(a)acm.org&gt;

To: "classiccmp" &lt;cctalk(a)classiccmp.org&gt; Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 2:22 PM Subject: American Automation EZ-Pro development system a small --__--__-- Message: 31 From: "Hans Franke" &lt;Hans.Franke(a)mch20.sbs.de&gt; Organization: SIEMENS AG To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 22:29:38 +0200 Subject: RE: rare TRS-80 model 3 ?? Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org > > > Another puzzle is why mine came with a 240V printer when it was a 110V US > > > machine? How common is a 240V circuit over there, apart for the likes of

industrial Well, maybe keep in Mind that Witchy lives in Britain, and 240 is there (as for most other parts of the world) the standard voltage. High power (3 phases) is supposed to be 400 :) Now, for the question it's rather where did you buy the machine? Since the Printer is 240 I assume in Europe. In the late 70s a lot of machines got directly imported and the people used step down transformers to operate them - Often dealers even managed to sell these beasts to customers when the original PSU was switchable to 220 and so maxing the profit :) Gruss H. -- VCF Europa 5.0 am 01./02. Mai 2004 in Muenchen http://www.vcfe.org/ --__--__-- Message: 32 From: "Antonio Carlini" &lt;arcarlini(a)iee.org&gt; To: &lt;cctalk(a)classiccmp.org&gt; Subject: RE: Kinda OT: DEC 3000 Model 300 AXP Memory Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 21:32:03 +0100 Organization: me@home Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org Manx ( http://vt100.net/manx ) has an upgrade manual listed for it (try searching on "dec 3000"). If that doesn't help, I have a service guide around somewhere, so yell. (And, yes, OpenVMS will feel much happier in 128MB). Antonio -- --------------- Antonio Carlini arcarlini(a)iee.org --__--__-- Message: 33 Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 15:36:07 -0600 From: emanuel stiebler &lt;emu(a)ecubics.com&gt; To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: SCSI bit-banging Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org Hi all, I guess we all remember this boards attached to ataris/commodores/apples, where we had a PIA/parallel port to attach some of the nice SCSI disks.

However, I don't find anything about this old bit-banging interfaces on the net. Any links ? cheers --__--__-- Message: 34 Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 17:44:32 -0400 From: Bob Shannon &lt;bshannon(a)tiac.net&gt; To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: M220B (PDP-8/I) schematics available Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org Jim Davis wrote: <snip> Good question! I've also chased down several bad 7474's in my Imlac, and I suspect some bad 7474's on a few HP 1000 series I/O boards I have down in the shop. Is the 7474 a 'dog'? I've know a few TTL parts that were pretty bad, mainly counters though. But a latch? --__--__-- Message: 35 Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 19:15:42 -0400

Subject: Re: American Automation EZ-Pro development system From: Arlen Michaels &lt;arlen(a)acm.org&gt; To: &lt;cctalk(a)classiccmp.org&gt; Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org on 8/7/03 4:27 PM, Douglas Wood at dbwood(a)kc.rr.com wrote: Sorry, I should have said "late 80s". The firmware in the 68HC11 emulator pod is dated 1-18-89. The design of the main box likely did originate somewhat earlier because it appears to be based on the SS-50 bus (believe it or not) and certainly AA produced emulators for other early Motorola cpu's. Arlen Michaels -- Arlen Michaels arlen(a)acm.org --__--__-- Message: 36 Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 20:26:09 To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org From: Joe &lt;rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com&gt; Subject: New Finds: SWTPC :-) Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org

A friend of mine picked up about 30 boxs of electronics parts, data books, evaluation kits, parts samples, etc at a local flea market last week. Today I was helping him go through the stuff and I spotted some familar looking boards. I picked one up and remarked that it looked like something for the SWTPCs. Then THE very next board that I picked up was marked "SWTPC" so I knew I was onto somehting good. I dug through the boxs and got 6+ boxs of disks with software for the FLEX OS (used on the SWTPCs) and found six circuit boards for the SWTPCs. Here's the list: (1) SWTPC MP-09 - Replacement CPU board for the SWTPC computers, uses 6809 CPU. This is a MP-09, not an A or B. (2) A Southeastern Micro Systems DDC-16 Floppy Drive Controller. (3) A Tanner Computers SS-50 64k memory board, uses 2716 EPROMs or 6116 S RAMs. This one has the S RAMS installed. (4) A SWTPC MP-R 2716 EPROM burner card. (5) A SWTPC MP-T Interrupt Timer board. It's

implemented with a 5009 programmable counter/ divider and 6820 PIA ICs and provides software selectable interrupts of 1 usec, 10 usec, 100 usec, 1 msec, 10 msec, 20 msec, 100 msec, 1 sec, 10 sec, 100 sec, 1 min, 10 min or 1 hour. (6) A Gimix 2 port Serial Interface board. Fits the SS-30 socket and uses two MC68B50s. I found everything else described on Michal Holley's SWTPC site but not this one. Does anyone have any details on it? Pretty good haul, specailly considering that I didn't have to go anywhere and find it :-) Joe --__--__-- Message: 37 Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 18:22:34 -0600 From: Rod Young &lt;rodyoung(a)shaw.ca&gt; Subject: /35 /40/ 45 ? To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org Well, I'll take a chance and ask... just in case timing is right... I'm looking for a PDP 11/35, or /40 to add to the collection. I know I know, who isn't looking for one! I have a few 11/23's and misc cards I might consider trading in case anyone

in Western Canada has a /35 or /40 they are looking to trade??? sell ??? or just find a good home for... thx rod --__--__-- Message: 38 Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 08:52:21 -0500 From: Mark Tapley &lt;mtapley(a)bams.ccf.swri.edu&gt; Subject: Re: Looking for new maintainer for DECVAX.ORG and PDP11.ORG To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org mrbill wrote: >I've also got about a truck-full (maybe a station wagon load, maybe >less) of old DEC documentation, handbooks, software on paper tape, a >disc pack or two... Jeff Sharp has seen my garage. 8-) I can't ship any >of it (unless you provide a FedEx or UPS account number to bill to), and >would like to avoid throwing it in the trash. At least 3-4 "storage tubs" >of manuals and documentation, a mixed VMS 4/5 "orange wall", and various >other things. > >If you're interested, please contact me by email. I don't have time for >DEC/PDP stuff anymore, and need the space in my garage back - but want

I don't have room to keep this, but if anyone is interested in this, could likely help with a "rescue". Let me know when/if you want to set something up. -- - Mark 210-522-6025, page 888-733-0967 --__--__-- Message: 39 Subject: Re: /35 /40/ 45 ? To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 18:27:08 -0700 (PDT) From: "Zane H. Healy" &lt;healyzh(a)aracnet.com&gt; Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org I'm not. I don't have the room :^( Zane --__--__-- Message: 40 From: "Jay West" &lt;jwest(a)classiccmp.org&gt; To: &lt;cctalk(a)classiccmp.org&gt; Subject: Re: /35 /40/ 45 ? Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 22:04:38 -0500 Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org Zane wrote.... I *DO* have the room, and I AM looking for a 35/40/45 *grin*. So of someone is getting a little tight on space.....

Jay (dreaming) West --__--__-- Message: 41 From: Cameron Kaiser &lt;spectre(a)floodgap.com&gt; Subject: Re: Commodore CBM/PET in Terminator 3 To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 20:17:37 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org Yeah, I noticed that. I'm wondering which computer John Connor knocked on the ground, though. It looked like an early X-term of some vintage. -- ---------------------------------- personal: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Floodgap Systems Ltd * So. Calif., USA * ckaiser(a)floodgap.com -- High explosives are applicable where truth and logic fail. -- Marcello Corno --__--__-- Message: 42 Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 21:40:01 -0600 From: Rod Young &lt;rodyoung(a)shaw.ca&gt; Subject: Re: /35 /40/ 45 ? To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org And... if someone wants to swap an 35/40/45 for my 11/23 ---SMILE... let me know!

rod (hoping) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jay West" &lt;jwest(a)classiccmp.org&gt; To: &lt;cctalk(a)classiccmp.org&gt; Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 9:04 PM Subject: Re: /35 /40/ 45 ? --__--__-- Message: 43 Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 02:56:53 -0700 To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org From: "Eric F." &lt;elf(a)ucsd.edu&gt; Subject: Re: Older wordprocessing software (XyWrite) Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org On Tue, 08-Jul-2003, @ 08:20:50 -0400, Gene Ehrich wrote: Yeah - something like that. XyWrite's history of commercial development took a few odd turns, and suffered the consequences of some marketing mishaps. A web page w/some decent info on XyWrite can be found @ http://www.escape.com/~yesss/_xywhat.htm

(This is not my web site, BTW.) Regards, Eric --__--__-- Message: 44 From: Paul Brodie &lt;brodie(a)goulburn.net.au&gt; To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 23:04:22 +1000 Subject: PC-7221 Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org Mike, I also have a Sharp lunch box computer and have tried to get a boot disk or config disk. Have you had any luck ? Regards Brodie --__--__-- Message: 45 Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 07:46:25 -0700 From: "Bruce Lane" &lt;kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com&gt; To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Up for bid - More 'classic' goodies Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org Shameless plug alert! I've got a few items in my latest crop of auctions that may be of interest to those of you running MicroVAX, MicroPDP, or IBM PS/2 Model 70 or 80 systems. First off, there's an IBM 'Blue Lightning' CPU upgrade kit, unused and still in its original packaging. This takes a 386 PS/2 system up to IBM's 486DLC. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1247&item=27… Second is another Maxtor XT2190 drive, which I'm told is the same as a DEC RD54. Don't know for sure what shape it's in, but I recall it was a pull from an old PC (which got scrapped). http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1247&item=27… Finally, there's a DEC RRD40 CD-ROM drive (the one with the psychotic D-sub 15 connector on its case). http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1247&item=27… There's other non-classic (and non-computer) stuff as well, if you're curious. No reserve on anything, some stuff listed as 'buy-it-now.' Thanks for looking. Anyway, hit E-pay and do a seller search -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Owner & Head Hardware Heavy, Blue Feather Technologies -- http://www.bluefeathertech.com ARS KC7GR (Formerly WD6EOS) since 12-77 -- kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com "I'll get a life when someone demonstrates that it would be superior to what I have now..." (Taki Kogoma, aka Gym Z. Quirk) --__--__-- Message: 46 From: &lt;roy.harbert(a)adelphia.net&gt; To: &lt;cctalk(a)classiccmp.org&gt; Subject: hp 5036A Lab Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 18:04:18 -0400 Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org Do you still have loose bound copies of the manual? I would be glad to scan and post them as I am in need of them myself. I just purchased a lab from eBay, but it came with no manual or processor. Do you happen to know if there are any micro's floating around?? Thanks for your time, Roy --__--__-- Message: 47 Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 23:58:17 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Jules=20Richardson?= &lt;julesrichardsonuk(a)yahoo.co.uk&gt; Subject: Re: Older wordprocessing software To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Reply-To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org Ahh, been there though. I did run Linux on this very same laptop for a while - I believe it was AbiWord I used as a basic GUI-based wordprocessor for my scribbles. At the time, one problem was the lack of CDROM drive on the machine for getting any large software onto it. The only parallel-port drive I had access to was a Microsolutions Backpack, and no matter what I tried it refused to work with Linux. No problems there under DOS / Win311. Second problem was one of performance - the linux distributions that were around a couple of years ago tended to be aimed at slightly faster hardware. I do still have old distributions lying around back to around 1994 or so (I remember the days of SLS on 50 or so floppies - it was always guaranteed *one* of the disks would be dead, usually near the end of the pile :) but then I'd have all sorts of compatibility problems with any modern software. Alternately

I could trim down a more modern version of Linux - but that's a lot of effort for something that just gets used for casual note-taking now and then. Third problem is also performance-related, and down to the time it takes Linux - or any modern MS operating system - to start up and shut down. If I just want to spend a couple of minutes typing some notes, I don't want to be taking the same length of time waiting for the machine to boot and then shut down again at the end. With DOS / Win311 the startup and shutdown is extremely quick. Maybe there's a version of NetBSD that gets round the second problem, but I bet it still takes a lot longer than DOS/Windows does to boot and shut down. Wordperfect 6.0 I assume, 5.1 not being particularly WYSIWYG as I recall :-) And yes, from memory 6.0 did suck; all these posts have reminded me of all the

wordprocessing software I'd forgotten about. I used to use 5.1 a *lot* under DOS until I started running Windows 3 on the PC I had back then. I have a horrible feeling the negative thing I vaguely recall about Ami Pro was its stability, at least in the version I had :-( Maybe there were later releases with the problems ironed out, or it was just some odd problem with the machine I had back then. If I can trace a copy then I'll find out I suppose... Someone mentioned DisplayWrite too - arghh! That had totally faded from my memory. My father's work made it their standard for a while; I should have access to a copy in theory but I have no plans to try and track that one down... :-) cheers Jules ________________________________________________________________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/ End of cctech Digest