Christian,
Since I am trying to keep this as simple as possible what drives are "smart
enough" that I could use them with vanilla PC HW. My interest is in DD 8"
disks so not having SS capability is not an issue (at least at this point).
Also I wish to image a complete disk and write a complete disk as the disk
would be used on the original system.
Looking at Dave Dunfield's site he is using a Qume 242 which he is wiring
directly (using an adapter) to a PC. So I would assume that would be smart
enough except the only 242 I found on a quick search is listed for $340 on
eBay. So that is not happening.
-Ali
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Subject: RE: Using an 8" drive on a PC (WAS RE: "Smartcom II" package
available)
On Sat, 20 Sep 2014, Ali wrote:
Do you still have the pin out for the IBM 51TD drive?
According to the
CCTalk archives you had been looking for it and seem to have found it
off list. I'd love a copy of the pin outs if you have it and/or any
advice on how to wire the 36 pin connector to a 34 pin FDD (or better
yet the 37 pin external dsub) connector. This is the 8" drive I have
access to and was used in the 5120, 5322, and the 6580 and System/36
AFAIK. It would be great if I can get PC HW (i.e. the std. IBM
controller card or the CompatiCard) to drive it. Thanks.
Forget it, that won't work:
1. You would need additional circuitry to control the drive. As an example,
the IBM disk drive needs the four stepper motor phases for head movement
whereas the Shugart interface only provides a step pulse and direction
signal. The IBM drive are much "dumber" than Shugart drives.
2. To read IBM floppies with a PC you ultimatively need a controller that
supports FM and MFM. Along with that you need either a tool that understand
the IBM disk structure or something like ImageDisk if you only want to image
the floppies.
Christian