20 Jan
1999
20 Jan
'99
1:29 a.m.
> > How would an enduser tell the difference
between a Windows installation
> > program that copies files to the right places and modifies some
> > configuration files, and a linux one that copies some files to the right
> > places, modifies some configuration files and runs make to build the
> > binaries from the C source. It doesn't require _any_ more knowledge.
> If the installation does this all for me, without
any problems
> (like different header files, unimportent, but ill behavied defines
> or a different compiler version - not to mention different libc's)
So what you're really complaining about is poorly
done source kits. OK, I
can agree there. But perhaps I've been lucky as a lot of things just
build with no problems...
_I_ had never substantal problems, but a lot of times some minor
tasks (like described below) had to be done - and finding and
creating a missing directory isn't every end users thing (especialy
the decision what to create, if there is no error message and you
have to look inside the RPM and Make scripts.
> _and_ without any unnecersary interacion (like
start the package manager,
> change directory, change environment settings, change script files,
> start 3 make runs, change /stc/* setings, etc.), I'm completly fine
> with that, but in fact, I never had the luck - I _can't_ remember
> any situation where I installed a source level package in an unix
Point is, if the source is that badly behaved, then
the binary probably
is as well (depends on a particular version of libc, requires
files in specific places, etc). And more people can fix the source than
fix the binary.
:))) Shure, but even these 'more' people are 'less'. An end user
can't
fix it - accept it, there is less than one of us for 10.000 users, and
if Unix shall succeede it has to reach them not us - we can handle all
the stuff (or at least I hope we can). And my original comment is still
true - Unix is only partly acceptable as x86 Linux, and I doubt that a
Merced kernal and lots of sources will have more success than all the
other unixes thru the last 20 years (with a notable exception of x86
Linux).
Gruss
H.
--
Ich denke, also bin ich, also gut
HRK