2009/6/5 Brian Lanning <brianlanning at gmail.com>:
So I got around to hooking some things up and seeing
what works. ?I
have a quadra 700 with system 7.6 on it. ?I also had a 7 bay scsi
enclosure lying around, a couple scsi hard drives, and a slot loading
dvd drive.
My goal here is first to get the quadra on the network so I can share
files with it. ?Also, I'd like to be able to read CDs or DVDs from the
quadra. ?Once one of those is successful, I plan to use ADT to
transfer a prodos or apple 3.3 dos disk image to an apple 2gs over a
serial cable, then create a bootable floppy for my 2e. ?:-P ? lol.
It's looking like a fun project.
I should note that I have zero floppy disks for the mac or apple
2e/2gs. ?So this is sort of a fun boot-strapping project to see if I
can get there from here.
Much to my surprise, the quadra 700 detected the two scsi hard drives
and dvd drive. ?The quadra already had some scsi utilities and each of
the drives show up. ?One of them has a mount button, but it refuses to
mount a CD in the DVD drive. ?No surprise there I guess. ?Any idea how
I can get the machine to mount a CD or DVD? ?I might have a
termination problem. ?I have this black centronics thingy with the
apple logo on it. ?It sort of looks like a terminator, but you can
plug another centronics cable into the back of it, so I'm doubting
it's a terminator.
Networking doesn't seem to work. ?I get a light on the hub, but it
doesn't seem interested in letting me get to the network. ?The machine
has Timbuktu installed, but the open menu option is ghosted out. ?The
info menu option works, but nothing is listed on the networking tab.
I found this link: ?http://www.atpm.com/network/files/file_sharing.htm
?The menu options they talk about are missing. ?I have some
applescript menu options somewhere else that talk about turning on
file sharing, but they don't work either. ?I'm thinking I might need
to reinstall the system software at some point. ?Any tips on how I can
get this machine on the network?
I suspect the floppy drive is bad. ?I put a new HD floppy in the
drive. ?It detects it as a 1.4meg floppy disk, but formatting doesn't
work. ?It claims the disk is bad. ?I have another drive in the IIfx
that I might try swapping in to see if I can get the floppy drive
working. ?I copied a dos file to the floppy as a test to see if I
could get the mac to read it. ?No luck. ?It wants to format the disk.
Any ideas on how I can be able to share floppies between the PC and
mac? ?I know the mac drives are a little odd.
fun stuff.
Quadra 700 - so it's a 25MHz 68040. How much RAM has it got?
http://lowendmac.com/quadra/quadra-700.html
I'd strongly suggest, as others have observed, wiping it & installing
MacOS 8.1. It's got much better TCP/IP handling and also better
handling of alien disk formats. You might even have a chance of
recognising and handling a DVD, though I wouldn't put money on it.
A bit more info as to why:
http://lowendmac.com/sable/06/0911.html
8.1 boot CDs are rare. It's easier to get a copy of 8.0 and download
and install the free 8.1 update, which Apple still offers.
If you're really stuck, I might be able to find a spare CD of 8.0
somewhere for you.
It'll still require 3rd party tools to talk to a Windows network,
though. If you have NT Server, though, it has a Mac file-sharing mode,
even back in NT3. That will work fine.
To access a non-Apple optical drive, you either need a 3rd party
driver or a hacked version of the Apple driver.There's a guide here:
http://www.kan.org/6100/cd.html
& a little more here:
http://macfaq.org/hardware/media.shtml
For 3rd party hard disks, you also need a 3rd party tool, although
it's not a driver as such - it's just a partitioner/formatter.
(Technically, it embeds the driver into the partition structure of the
drive, so the MacOS automatically loads it the 1st time that it sees
the drive. This is transparent - you can even boot off such a drive.)
I use SilverLining but there's also a LaCie tool and various others -
most vendors of 3rd party SCSI hard disks offered them.
In my experience, reading non-Mac CDs on Classic MacOS is very iffy,
especially if they're home-burned ones. I've never found an adequate
way around this. It's /supposed/ to work but often won't.
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