8 Apr
2008
8 Apr
'08
12:19 p.m.
On Tue, Apr 08, 2008 at 03:49:19PM +0100, Liam Proven wrote:
On 08/04/2008, Alexander Schreiber <als at
thangorodrim.de> wrote:
Ah yes, Novell can play the "Lies, damn lies and marketing" game as well
as anybody else. What the product _will_ be (if you read the
announcement carefully), is a stand-alone product consisting of:
- the Xen hypervisor
- a stripped down Linux distribution to run as Domain 0 (the privileged
Xen domain for management and hardware drivers)
In other words, something any compentent Linux sysadmin with some
knowledge of Xen can crank out on a boring friday, using
$DISTRO_OF_CHOICE as base.
So it will still contain Unix underneath, but you won't be able to use
that Unix for anything.
Regards,
Alex.
--
"Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and
looks like work." -- Thomas A. Edison
On Tue, Apr 08, 2008 at 09:22:02AM +0200, Jochen
Kunz wrote:
Fascinating. Thanks for that.
I was going to say that running it under Xen or something would rather
miss the point, inasmuch as that brings all the baggage of having Unix
underneath - but then, coincidentally, today I read this:
<http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Infrastructure/Novell-Developing-Standalone-Xen-Based-Hypervisor-Product/>
The URL is quite informative in itself, really, but the article opens thus:
_Novell Developing Stand-Alone Xen-Based Hypervisor Product_
*Novell's hypervisor product will be available later in 2008 and is
based on the Xen hypervisor found in SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 10.*
Novell is quietly working on a stand-alone hypervisor product that
will be based on the Xen hypervisor found in SUSE Linux Enterprise
Server 10. On Tue, 8 Apr 2008 03:56:14 +0100
"Liam Proven" <lproven at gmail.com> wrote:
There is also a Lisp on bare-metal-x86, project Movitz:
http://common-lisp.net/project/movitz/
It would probably be a good idea to port it against the Xen PVM
interface - this would solve the pesky issue of hardware drivers quite
elegantly ;-) I know SQR(fsck all) about Lisp Machines, but in
these days of
high-powered PCs, would it be viable to create some form of
implementation of the LispM OS on x86? Even if it required some kind
of emulation layer underneath for content-addressable memory or
whatever?
http://labs.aezenix.com/lispm/index.php?title=VLM_On_Linux
VLM On Linux
This file gives some additional hints on running the Symbolics Virtual
Lisp Machine (VLM) port to Linux/x86_64 by Brad Parker.
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