Thanks Rick,
Where on earth was this stuff hidden away? I'm trying to picture
where they'd have had the room. My parents were in the Tek Rock club
so I spent a lot of time back then at OMSI, including places that
weren't normally open to the public.
I miss the old OMSI. The new OMSI is a shadow of its former self as
far as I'm concerned. All the Cool stuff they used to have is pretty
much gone with a couple exceptions. We've been to the Children's
Museum a couple times in the last few years, and they only use a
small fraction of the space in the old OMSI building. The only good
things I see about OMSI having moved is the parking and the sub.
Sadly they've allowed the Mercury Capsule replica to be destroyed by
kids as it's no longer sealed up.
Zane
At 7:06 PM -0700 10/14/09, Rick Bensene wrote:
DEC had quite a place at OMSI in at least in the 1973
through late
1970's timeframe.
OMSI had a Straight-8, with quite a bit of RAM, one of the fixed head
disk drives (was it RA32?), a few DECTape drives, and a Tektronix 4002
as a console terminal, as well as a Centronix dot matrix printer, and if
I recall correctly, even one of the small Calcomp drum plotters. I
don't know what happened to the Straight-8, but it was quite heavily
used when I was there. OMSI had computer programming classes and used
the 8 for teaching assembly and BASIC programming.
They also had a rather heavily configured PDP 11/45 running some fairly
early version of RSTS, with a dial-in modem bank, and a number of
terminals in a "terminal room" as well as a terminal in a museum exhibit
that was connected to the 11. OMSI did a lot of development work,
especially related to development of a PASCAL compiler on the 11. I
also know that they did quite a bit of modification to OS/8 on the PDP
8. I remember seeing source listings for both OS/8 and RSTS on
green-line paper around the place. They also had a number of those DEC
logic labs, along with tons of software and documentation for the 8 and
11.
I once found a bug in RSTS that allowed me to capture PPN's and
passwords from any dial-up terminal. I ended up finding the [1,2]
(systems operator) password at one point, and due to teenage foolishness
on my part, ended up getting caught. OMSI had DEC Systems Engineers all
over this issue, sending some of their expert RSTS guys to OMSI figure
out the bug and get rid of it. OMSI apparently had some pretty good
pull with DEC, and I believe was well-supported by DEC.
Eventually, the folks that were involved with the development of PASCAL
ended up spinning off their own company called Oregon Software, and
ended up taking over OMSI's 11/45, but leased services back to OMSI at a
very low rate. I'm not at all sure of how the whole business deal
worked, but at around that time, I graduated from high school and went
to work at Tektronix, and he much more computer toys to play with at Tek
then OMSI had, and kind of lost touch with the whole thing.
One person that I fondly remember was a man who was the head of the
computing department at OMSI at the time was named Rusty Whitney. I was
involved with him when I got caught for "breaking in" to the OMSI RSTS
system. He was really great in dealing with the situation. I Googled
him just now, and found his Linked-In page:
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rusty-whitney/8/93/397
He was the founder of Oregon Software. I'd bet that he has some great
stories to tell about those days.
I'm going to try contacting him to see if he remembers the whole RSTS
hacking situation.
Rick Bensene
The Old Calculator Museum
http://oldcalculatormuseum.com
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> The thing I noticed is that the mods seem to have been done by the
> group at
> OMSI (Oregon Museum of Science and Industry). I'd really love to see
> details on OMSI's involvement with DEC computers. I spent a lot of my
> childhood there, and I can guarentee I never saw any sign of any DEC
> computers during the timeframe they'd have been doing such things.
>
> Zane
>
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