On Thu, 13 May 2010, Dan Gahlinger wrote:
it wasn't a claim. it was a question.
it was what I was told (at the time) by the university.
the language and structure is very suggestive that it was a predecessor.
I could find *ZERO* documentation or references anywhere on the net to
either valtrep or the sentry 70 system it ran on.
so, like an idiot, I thought why not ask all these smart people on this list for help,
surely someone else must have worked with it, must have seen this stuff.
surely some historical record exists of the language or at least the computers that ran
it,
certainly someone kind, and wise enough of these things could fill in the blanks, and
advise.
I still can't find any references, other than what has been posted to the list.
so far it only goes back to the 70s, with no real historical evidence of even the company
that made
the computers that ran this stuff.
could it be earlier? yes, could it be later, probably.
again i refer to similar situations in etymology.
but instead of kind words and help and guidance, I got trolls.
that's not what this list is supposed to be about. or at least, so I
thought... wrong again?
Wrong again.
In a discussion of "where did Apple get the FORTRAN for the Lisa?", you
posted:
On Fri, 7 May 2010, Dan Gahlinger wrote:
Actually, Fortran came from Valtrep
I used to code on some old Sentry-70 systems in Valtrep back in the 80s
yes, this was after fortran was already quite established.
it's very like fortran - if you can write fortran, you can do valtrep.
Interestingly perhaps, googling for valtrep is quite useless it seems...
Perhaps your queries would be treated more like questions if you
structured them as questions, rather than as definitive [QUESTIONABLE!]
declarations.
Declaring that FORTRAN came from Valtrep, is not only NOT the answer to
where Apple got their FORTRAN, it is difficult to parse that as being a
question or a request for further information.
We don't/can't fault you for the scarcity of data online about Valtrep and
Sentry-70.
But, when the information that you provided is contradictory to the
knowledge of history, then wisdom dictates questioning the credibility of
the data. And enlightenment warns us to not feed trolls.
--
Grumpy Ol' Fred cisin at
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