29 Oct
2012
29 Oct
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From: Tothwolf <tothwolf at concentric.net To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic
Posts <cctalk at classiccmp.org Cc:
Sent: Monday, 29 October 2012 10:11 AM
Subject: Re: networking classic hardware
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012, Tom Sparks wrote:
? file sharing and printer sharing is on the top of the list, the others are at
the bottom of the list
With most classic hardware, you are probably going to have to handle printing
and transferring files separately, at least to keep things simple and halfway
manageable (and affordable on a hobbyist's budget).
The UDS1100 isn't really the same animal as the UDS10. You'll also find
the newer models tend to go for a whole lot more on the surplus market because
people in the controls and automation industry currently use them and they need
to be able to obtain support from the manufacturer.
ok
? From: Tothwolf <tothwolf at
concentric.net >? On Sat, 27 Oct
2012, Tom Sparks wrote:
>
>>? ?I hoping to use ethernet hardware, so I can use power over
ethernet,
? ATA over ethernet, KVM over ip, Audio over ethernet
etc
? IMO, you are getting way ahead of yourself. ? AFAIK,
the Lantronix UDS10 doesn't support PoE anyway.
? the newer version dose (UDS1100) >? In fact, I don't think /any/ of their
older (read: halfway
affordable) devices support PoE.
? i'm looking at using PoE to eliminate as many wall warts as possible
There are some serious drawbacks to PoE that a lot of people don't realize
until they've deployed it at least once or twice. For this particular application though, PoE isn't
something I would
personally recommend.
ok
>? As far as KVM over IP goes, that's a
whole 'nother ball of
wax...
? i'll leave kvming (is that a word?) to a later date
I'm not aware of a KVM solution for classic hardware, but with more modern
hardware, IP solutions tend to be expensive and complex. I have several that
I'm currently using, and even though I can find a lot of the individual
devices/components on the surplus market, they have not been cheap or easy to
get working. Put simply, KVM over IP is a pain in the butt to
support,
and unless you need it for remote servers where you only need it for occasional
maintenance, you are better off avoiding it.
its a pipe dream
>? Keep in mind that Lantronix also only
provides Windows drivers for port
redirection with their serial devices.
? like normal, windows runs the world :)
I'm not so sure about that. Even cable TV boxes and smart phones are running
Linux these days. Fun fact: Many of Lantronix's own serial devices
have used
Linux under the hood (and they haven't always been particularly good about
releasing the source code per the terms of the GPL license).
sound like gpl-violations.org needs to be contacted
? I did find some linux com port redirectors
Did any have source code available or support their older devices?
>? Based on my own experience I'd recommend
using parallel where you
can for sending print jobs out to the Linux machine and
save serial for outgoing
connections from and data transfers to/from the classic hardware.
? thats what i was think
Maybe even tackle each of these one at a time?
>? If you need to remotely locate your
printers, have the Linux machine
talk to print server devices near your printers.
If the Linux machine is close
to the printers and you don't have very many printers, skip the ethernet
print servers entirely and save yourself the trouble and headaches they
absolutely /will/ cause.
? I am looking at a 1:1 ratio with the printer servers (1 printer to 1
printer
server)
Are your printers located near each other?
PS, your email client seems to seriously mangle quoting and manually fixing it
is quite tedious.
it looks ok on cctalk archive