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geoffrey oltmans wrote: So I'm really not trying to "hate" on Apple here. It seems as long as you are willing to stay within the Apple paradigm, then everything is nice. Everything works. I don't doubt that. The problem comes in whenever you'd like to use your hardware/software in a different way. I'd like to just plug my ipod into my Windows PC, and copy my .mp3's to it. It seems absurd to me that you can't do this. Forget the huge bloated management application that is constantly advertising and trying to sell you something. I will say I've had no end to problems w/ the ipod nano I bought my wife a few years ago. And lost songs (aka money) due to DRM issues. Serves me right for actually paying for music, anyways. Or maybe you don't want the new software update for your ipod. Or maybe you don't want to use itunes to restore a broken ipod. There's really no choice. It vaguely reminds me of those Caribbean and Mexican beach resort vacations. As long as you stay on the property in the enclosed fence, everything is fine. Ignore the guys with machine guns outside. Just do as we tell you and no one will get hurt. :) Floomla is a decent free ipod app, btw. BTW: Microsoft offers a number of free versions of Visual Studio. Depending on the language, etc, Eclipse is a good free alternative too. Keith