I feel stupid here lj 4000tn

On 10/13/2011 11:43 AM, John Foust wrote: Verizon(both DSL and FIOS) and Comcast(cable modem) who are the predominant carriers in my area give out wireless *routers* standard and have done so for at least 5 or 6 years. There are no more DSL *modems* or cable *modems* that operate like you suggest. If I go back about 10 years, yes, Adelphia(before bought by Comcast) would pass out cable modems. My parents got DSL about 8 years + ago, and the initial device was in fact a router. So the routers, performing the NAT, pass out multiple internal 192.168.x.x/24 (RFC 1918 addresses) and then translate to the single external IP address assigned via DHCP if it's cable service, and PPPoEoA if it's ADSL. You can't natively attach directly to the cable port (because it's coax), or the ADSL port (because, well, it's ADSL) and so the modem functionality is directly built into the routers. In FIOS installations that give you native RJ-45 ethernet ports (what I have, much better than the damn moca connections), the behavior is as you describe. If you connect directly to the ONT (optical network terminal), a single external IP address assigned and locked to your MAC via DHCP. However, every FIOS installation comes with a free router (and required for use with moca, unless you have a moca->ethernet bridge) and always have. I had FIOS access within three weeks of them pulling the single-mode fiber down my street. The days of the ISPs trying to upsell a router(or wireless router) are long gone. Consumers now-a-days demand wireless routers standard. Keith