On Friday 02 June 2006 09:11 pm, Chuck Guzis wrote:
  On 6/2/2006 at 8:49 PM Roy J. Tellason wrote:
 I've heard that,  in particular that Fairchild
had made some early TTL in
the 9000 numbers,  I think it was?  But I seldom run across any of that 
 info
 at all,  these days,  and didn't then.  First
TTL databook I have goes 
 back
 to about 1970,  and is a TI book with the
standard, H, and L series in it
only. 
 When I'm working something out that needs a dual one-shot, I use a 96LS02. 
I don't use one-shots much myself,  but I do have a couple of those,  both the
LS and the straight 9602 versions,   maybe one and two of them.  I notice
that some designers seem to favor those though I'm not familiar enough with
the details to know just why that is.
Back in '78 when I was messing with that H11 system that at that time had _no_
external storage except for paper tape,  the company got a hold of a dual
cassette drive to evaluate.  I got the job of seeing if I could come up with
an interface for the '11,  and did get as far as wire-wrapping a board but
never got the handshaking right and the machine never recognized it.  I
recall a conversation on the phone,  though,  where this guy at the company
who'd sent out the drive advised *very* strongly against the '123 parts,
saying that they had some serious stability issues,  or somesuch.  I do know
I hardly ever see them used,  with the 96x02s being more common for some
reason.
  And let's not forget the Signetics 8Txxx TTL
stuff. 
I did forget about those.  I also remember seeing them in some databook here,
though with things in their current state of disarray I wouldn't begin to
guess which book that was.  I also remember those with some other numbers
attached,  maybe something like "8T97/8097" perhaps?
  Japanese numbers can be a problem if they're not
conventional.  Mitsubishi
 and Fujitsu particularly.  I've got lots of "what the heck is this thing"
 samples of both. 
I've managed okay with their transistors -- and those numbers seem to make up
the bulk of my data,  for sure,  as well as a lot of my salvage lately.  The
chips,  though,  are another matter entirely.
And I haven't really even begun to seriously dig.  There's both a mass of
stuff in books here that I could just enter some basic info on,  and a whole
lot more out there on the 'net that I haven't dug into yet -- most of that
stuff came from one or two sites,  which I stopped using when they started
"branding" datasheets,  none of which I've uploaded.  I've a couple of
others
to hit for replacements,  and then all of the manufacturer's sites yet.
One guy had a bunch of stuff on a web page a while back and it looked like a
link to my pages would fit in well,  so I dropped him an email.  The one word
that stands out in my recollection from his response was "Ambitious!"   :-)
Not that I ever actually started out to try and make this project happen,
initially.  It was more a matter of getting some data on some parts I
happened to have around (which is why there are part entries with no data at
all,  I have 'em and haven't found any yet) and arranging what data I did
find into a form that I found useful.  I'm glad to see some other folks
finding it useful as well,  and it looks like more folks are doing so lately,
particularly since I added the datasheets to the pile since I changed hosts.
More data in whatever form is welcome,  and I'll add it as time permits.
--
Member of the toughest, meanest, deadliest, most unrelenting -- and
ablest -- form of life in this section of space,  a critter that can
be killed but can't be tamed.  --Robert A. Heinlein, "The Puppet Masters"
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