8 Jun
2000
8 Jun
'00
5:12 a.m.
R. D. Davis wrote:
Alas, real VAX/VMS no longer exists, it's name has
been castrated by
the marketing goons to sound like yet another bizdroidish name... the
thought of seeing the string "OpenVMS" on my VT240 is nowhere near as
much fun as seeing "VAX/VMS." Does anyone know where I can get a
VAX/VMS was a name that *had* to go in the early 90's. Think about it, if
you had your way we'd have VAX/VMS and AXP/VMS, which would create
confusion, where there doesn't need to be any. Besides OpenVMS is as Open
as just about any other OS out there.
complete V5.4 or so VAX/VMS distribution on TK50s or
TK70s? I don't
need DECwindows, BTW.
Best answer, get lucky and find a set. I wish the Hobbyist VAX V1 CD was
still available for people, it had V5.5 - 6.1 on it. It also had all kinds
of excellent software on it. Of course it was missing the layered products
the V2 CD has.
For the most part I agree on DECwindows, though I like having one system
that can run it, and I normally just bring it up on my PowerMac using
eXodus. There are a couple DECwindows apps I like to use. Still
NiftyTelnet on my Mac can easily bring up a ton of terminal windows, so if
that's all I need, that's the route I use.
How did Compaq expect to do as well as they could have
by buying DEC
when they destroyed DEC? When I think of Compaq, I think of those
poorly designed IBM type toy PC kludges, not nicely designed hardware
that's useful and fun to play with as I did when I thought of DEC.
It's obvious that the microsoft virus has infected the brains of those
who run Compaq, and who've run DEC into the ground.
Compaq has done a lot of bad, but they've also done a lot of good. Sure
it's wierd seeing a row of Compaq Rack's standing where some *old* DEC gear
used to stand, but inside those racks is some beautiful OpenVMS hardware!
To bad it belongs to another group and I can't touch it!
Compaq might not be doing a lot to advertise OpenVMS, but they're
apparently doing more than DEC had in recent years. Besides this new
Hobbyist program that we all love, came about after Compaq got ahold of the
company.
Compaq does have a lot of junky toy PC's, but they've also got some pretty
amazing x86 boxes. Of course they're running a horrible OS.
What is disturbing about Compaq is that they continue to push Windows and
for the most part ignore the OS's that they own.
Of course it you like VMS and want to see it successful, how about doing
something about it like writing some software, or telling people how great
it is. It's in desparate need of apps, and most people don't even know it
is still around.
Zane
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