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Message: 21 Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2009 20:16:20 -0500
From: John Foust <jfoust at threedee.com> Subject: Re: 1964 Antique MODEM Live Demo
To: <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20090601201242.03e96008 at
mail.threedee.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 03:24 PM
6/1/2009, Gordon JC Pearce wrote:
>Okay, let's try again. I have a
circa-70s 300-baud modem, that will
>generate incorrect tones when it's plugged into a USB-to-serial
>converter, but not when it's plugged into a real serial port.
>Why might this happen?
USB only guarantees to supply 100 milliamps. Up to 500 mA can be
negotiated with the controller, depending. Might your older device
depend on more amps than the USB adapter can supply?
Huh? The RS-232-port isn't supposed to deliver any power at all. Some
devices admittedly abused the RS-232 by using something like DTR to
actually supply the power needed to drive the thing, but that is abuse.
But I'd be surprised if a circa-70s modem was ever designed to use the
power from the RS-232 port to drive the modem itself. I'd expect it to
have an external power supply.
The problem description is a bit vague. How do you know it is generating
incorrect tones? Have you used a frequency analyser to check the tone
frequencies? Or might it just be that what has been observed is that the
modem don't work when used with the USB-to-serial? If so, then we have a
number of possible problems, none of which neccesarily is a problem with
the modem. Or is it just a case of listening to the modem while plugging
in the cable, and not the same thing happening on the different serial
ports. Might the USB-to-serial not start driving signals until something
talks to it on the software side?
I'd start by checking that the USB-to-serial really delivers correct
voltages. Break out the oscilloscope.
Next, I'd check if the USB-to-serial is happy without all kind of signal
"right", and if the modem supplies all the "right" signals. Also check
cables.
Johnny
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