17 Dec
2011
17 Dec
'11
8:52 a.m.
On 17 December 2011 15:26, Dan Gahlinger <dgahling at hotmail.com> wrote:
I think you're misleading people.
It doesn't make the transition easier at all, in fact, it probably makes it worse.
Perhaps; perhaps not. I "transitioned" to Linux as my desktop a decade
ago. I still don't like the shell much.
and btw the mtools and such allow you to work with
un*x files just as much as non.
in the end, if they're going to use un*x, they have to learn. there is no other way.
I disagree, and I think that products such as Mac OS X and Ubuntu
abundantly disprove this.
Do you now want to "dumb down" things like:
perl, python, and C? or awk and sed?
No. I don't care. I never use them. Nor do 99.9% of MICROS~1 users.
They can remain as cryptic as they wish; it makes no difference to me.
How about dumbing-down regular expressions, I mean,
after all, those are horribly complicated.
I never use them, either, so I don't care. Leave them be.
I know. let's make a "basic"
(programming language) to regular expression conversion kit!
Why not, I mean, these people are too stupid to figure out that "ls" does dir
and "mv" is rename/move.
And why not?
The best way to learn a foreign language is through
immersion.
Sure, true. But this is not a language - it's an option, one that the
vast majority of commercial Unix users don't even know is there. (That
means Apple users: all Mac OS X and all iPhones and iPads are UNIX?.)
Linux for the desktop is a fallacy.
It's already here. I'm using it, as are tens of millions of others.
Then there are the 100? as many Android phone users...
You don't want the desktop to look and work like
windows.
Who said anything about that?
(BTW theres already a distro for that - Linspire or
Xandros for example)
Both long dead.
You think people switched to Mac because the Mac CLI
can run all DOS commands? it can't.
or that the GUI is identical? it's not.
the point of a distro is not to make it look and feel or work like something else.
it's to -BE- something else.
Sure, that's fine. No argument.
But the point that I am making that you are ignoring is the ways in
which, for some common tasks, the DOS way is *better.*
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