7 May
2010
7 May
'10
1:52 p.m.
If you actually READ the email instead of making immature remarks, maybe you'd learn
something.
I didn't say apple contracted with Valtrep for their Lisa FORTRAN or even implied
anything like that. (that would be quite impossible). Don't make stupid comments
especially if you don't read the mssage.
You say my 1980s experiences with Valtrep were long after Fortran was well established and
into the decline?
Say it isn't so batman! what is this alternate universe we live in!?
oh, and your comment that Valtrep had some nice improvements on the original creation of
Fortran is just plain stupid.
Valtrep is the PREDECESSOR to Fortran, or didn't you read my message so you could
understand that. Guess not.
Fortran may have been in heavy use since the 1960s (actually it's probably more like
the mid to late 70s, but whatever),
but Valtrep was actually developed and used long before that.
Just because some company was still using Valtrep in the 1980s doesn't make it newer
you know.
Many companies use products and technologies that haven't been developed or wide use
in decades...
I have no idea who this "transnet" guy is, maybe you can ask him, maybe
he'll be nicer than I am.
In any case, the predecessor to Fortran was Valtrep. Not all such technology has
survived.
Someone months ago on this list talked about reviving a Cyber/Prime, but we never did hear
about the result if it ever got finished...
Dan.
Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 13:10:00 -0700
From: cisin at xenosoft.com
To: cctalk at classiccmp.org
Subject: RE: Lisa C and Lisa FORTRAN
On Fri, 7 May 2010, Dan Gahlinger wrote:
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Actually, Fortran came from Valtrep
WOW!
Are you saying that Apple contracted with Valtrep for their Lisa FORTRAN?
Or are you saying that the earliest versions of FORTRAN were based on
Valtrep? If so, you should be aware that FORTRAN was in heavy active use
in the 1960s, rather long before your 1980s experiences with Valtrep.
NO. Valtrep may have made some nice improvements, but they were never
part of the original creation of FORTRAN.
I used to code on some old Sentry-70 systems in
Valtrep back in the 80s
yes, this was after fortran was already quite established.
Yes, RATHER.
FORTRAN was well on to its DECLINE in usage by then.
it's very like fortran - if you can write
fortran, you can do valtrep.
Interestingly perhaps, googling for valtrep is quite useless it seems...
Oh, I don't know, that guy "transnet" has some interesting ideas :-)