On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 1:10 AM, Chuck Guzis <cclist at sydex.com> wrote:
On 10 Oct 2009 at 0:41, Alexandru Lovin wrote:
Trouble is, I can't afford an international
call to hear them say yes
or no. Beside that, I really really really want someone to look into
the machine and tell me if a custom RAM card can be made. The thing
comes with 2 MB onboard (4 chips, apparently 4x512 KB) and it has a
custom RAM upgrade card...which of course, can't be found anywhere on
the whole Internet.
You didn't say where in the world you were located. I'm sure that
there must be someone close enough to you.
Romania. Nope, save from the motherboard fixer who's probably gotten sick of
old hardware, there is no other craftsman able or willing to concoct a
custom PCB. All those that were here already ran away abroad - to Canada,
US, Germany, France, Italy, Spain, etc.
Now, the laptop also has a custom connector for a
2400bps modem that
it could host. Being a 386SX, it is most definitely 8-bit ISA or
16-bit ISA (but really nonstandard). I think it has 25 pins or so (not
sure, quoting from memory). Were there any other buses used in the
286-386SX generations except ISA? As far as I know, PCI can only be
implemented starting with a 386 DX so it's definitely not PCI.
I'm sure it's nothing as exotic as PCI for a 386SX laptop. It could
well be a version of ISA, but some devices used their own bus
implementation, so it's difficult to say.
Would a hardware wizard be able to tell if I sent him the laptop?
I refuse to believe that there aren't any
people left in this world
able to design and manufacture a custom PCB. One for the memory
expansion (and not necessarily with 2 MB on it, it can have more - the
386SX I heard can access up to 16 MB, just like the 286, while the
leap to 4 GB was achieved with the 386DX) and one for something else.
The question is more of "who would want to design a board for a
little-known vintage laptop?" Given sufficient monetary impetus, you
could certainly find someone to do it, but otherwise, why would
anyone want to do it?
Exactly. I want to know how much for all this. I'll patiently gather the
money and then pay hard cash: here, do it.
I think it's a better use of your time to enjoy the thing for what it
is, not what it was never intended to be.
I disagree. I find your PC philosophy wrong. You see, when someone thinks of
a system, they want it to sell in great numbers. You know the iPhone is an
Apple first and a phone second. You know you can barely understand the guy
calling you from his iPhone (we use GSM here, not CDMA, except for just one
operator). But the thing sells because you have to slide to answer. Or
unlock the keypad...sorry, touchscreen.
So, the persons who make up a product don't necessarily want it to be the
best. They want people to feel they have sufficient resources (RAM + CPU)
and enough upgrade paths (like this modem and extra memory card) to suit
most of their needs. That's why most companies cater to the village idiot -
they think those are the most numerous. I don't know if that's a fact, but
it's certainly what they think.
Most importantly, the user must not feel ripped off. Also, he must not find
the price tag restrictive. And you should know better than I do what the
prices for PCs and laptops were in 1992. Thousands of dollars. The same
performance range, by today's standards, costs much less, I would say a
quarter.
So of course they didn't mean it to have 16 MB of RAM! That would have made
the price skyrocket! Of course they didn't mean it to have an Ethernet card:
only entities with big budgets could afford networking back then. And that
USB adapter would only push things to the limits. One extra thing I'm
considering is calling
esupport.com and ask them for a BIOS upgrade - the
machine actually has an IBM PC BIOS, it's the first time I've ever seen such
a BIOS.
My main machine is a dual Pentium 3 - 1.4 GHz. With 2 GB of RDRAM. Runs
Vista without problems. Windows 7 awards systems with a score from 1.0 to
7.9 and this system's CPUs got 3.3. That RDRAM got the same mark. A 386 DX
system can have PCI and that means it can have SATA. Or Gigabit Ethernet. Or
a DirectX 10 video card.
I never will understand this type of thinking: oh just use it for what it
was made. Windows 7 can run on a K6-2 CPU. I'm pretty confident it can also
run on a K6 and K5. Won't install or run on Pentium MMX - tested. The
motherboard just needs to be fully ACPI 1.0 compliant and it must host no
less than 512 MB of RAM.
But hey, why have the latest compatibility and run decently recent versions
of software? The K6-2 was made for Windows 9x or ME at most, so you should
use that. Does that make sense?
I know there are people who keep a 386 for the single task of playing their
favourite DOS games, but there's Dosbox. And it can render the games in
higher resolutions and with somewhat better methods of rendering. But it was
not made for that!
I can't find the logic. Whatever I can do, I probably want to do it on a
computer. I don't want a flame war with you, Sir, but this is me.