On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 5:20 PM Electronics Plus via cctalk
<cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
Do you guys want original LK201s, or other keyboards
that LOOK like LK201s
in the caps and layout, or converters?
I am a little confused... LK201 clones do not have the clip offset on the
terminal connector, so you would have to replace the connector. I have no
idea if the protocol, voltage, etc is the same.
LK201 keyboards and variants (LK401, clones, etc) have a narrow 4p4c
"handset jack" connector, not offset like an MMJ serial connector.
The power is +12V, the serial protocols are the same. I've used
LK401s on VT220s and Rainbows, I've used LK401s and LK201s on a Planar
terminal with an "LK201" input jack. That part is standard.
Speaking for myself, I have a pile of devices (DECmates,
Professionals, Rainbows, VT220, VT240...) that have a 4-place narrow
handset jack for a keyboard, and most of them are expecting an LK201.
I also have a large assortment of LK201s (with and without the WPS/EDT
"Gold Key" keycaps) and 1-2 smaller but compatible keyboards. Every
time I pull an LK201 off the shelf, I'm wondering if it's going to
work. I have 2-3 dead ones for sure. I think at least one of them
has a dead matrix because IIRC, it was causing "4 - keyboard error"
until I dismantled it and unplugged the mylar keyboard matrix sheet.
I suspect that the paint layer has either oxidized to high
resistance/open circuit or there's a short somewhere. I haven't
investigated that further. I am also aware of some electronics
failures. I can obviously mix and match bits to have as many working
keyboards as possible, but that is a finite decreasing number.
What I would find handy in one regard is being able to use a PS/2 or
USB modern keyboard on 1980s DEC equipment as if I was plugging in an
LK201.
I would also probably employ a device that I could plug a real DEC
keyboard into but that talked PS/2 or USB to be able to use that with
a modern machine. One application would be to use it with Simh or
even just a dumb terminal emulator (Glass, etc) with a real terminal
feel.
I might employ a device that replaced the electronics in a dead LK201
but I wouldn't need that many of them.
-ethan
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From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-bounces at
classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Sophie
Haskins via cctalk
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2020 3:41 PM
To: Paul Koning; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: LK201 emulation
I would absolutely be interested in this - while I'd love to use original
hardware where possible, it's not always easy to get peripherals at the same
time as machines. A long term dream of mine is to build some sort of
general-purpose box that can make connections to arbitrary vintage computer
keyboard/mouse/video ports, and connect in to modern HDMI & USB peripherals
to make it easier to just pull a machine off the shelf and get going.
On May 17, 2020, at 5:13 PM, Paul Koning via
cctalk
<cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
Gentlepeople,
I've been having problems with broken LK201s, so as a workaround I created
an
adapter that connects to a standard PC USB keyboard and makes it look
like an LK201. It's based on an Arduino (specifically, Adafruit Trinket M0,
an amazingly tiny yet powerful small microprocessor).
It's working at this point, though it needs a few small software tweaks to
make it complete. I'm going to turn my breadboard into something slightly
more polished.
Question to the list: is this something that would be of interest to
others? If
yes, I can make the design available. Perhaps the PCB layout
and parts list. I don't think I want to get into building units for others,
though.
paul
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