21 Jun
1997
21 Jun
'97
3:53 a.m.
e.tedeschi wrote:
Marvin wrote:
I must have missed that post where you indicated you were ridiculed. As
I said in my earlier post, not *everything* in the collection works but
I do try to have as much as possible working. Working is not my
criteria for saving machines as I have seen VERY little that cannot be
repaired. As most of us have said, we collect to save stuff from going
to the dump.
In almost all cases, I find it MUCH better to ask about something
perceived as a problem rather than let it simmer and finally boil out of
control. I am rather curious as to where, or perhaps how, your reaction
developed. Banned from a list? I would sure hope not as I haven't even
seen a hint of justification for that action.
Well, to get more specific, I have the (perhaps wrong) feeling that:
a) You are against collectors who collect for the historical importance
onyl and are not really worried if the item works or not (as long as all
the parts are in there and the thing can be made to work if and when
required). I have been ridiculized when I suggested this one way to go
about collecting.
b) You are against collectors who want ot take out
bits and pieces from
the systems in order to show them separately (but retaining and perhaps
even ehibiting the "crippled" item). I have been refused help in thsi
respect when it became apparent I was going to do this.
I gather you are talking about the 8008 and/or the 4004
microprocessors? I guess that is a matter of individual attitude. Just
because an item is not complete, it wouldn't slow me down if I wanted to
exhibit it. I take parts from different stuff all the time although I
would much prefer to obtain the new parts if possible.
c) You are against helping "foreigners" (and
therefore "different")
collectors to export "your" stuff perhaps in the wrong perception that
it will diminish the heritage of the country (yours). I have striken a
deal with one of the subscriber here and he disappeared in the distance
after a while (he did not answer anymore...) By the way does anybody
need British stuff? I would be glad to help you with it.
I haven't seen this except for some concern about the costs involved.
As far as getting British computers, I would love to do that and don't
mind trading. However my reluctance comes only from not having any idea
of the cost involved.
Of course I have no proof of the above but from the
short experience I
had here, I think that the problem exhists as opposed to the "openess"
of other American collecting groups like, for example, the radio
collecting community which has been VERY helpful with me and other
"foreigners" to buy and export stuff from the USA and CANADA (what about
the stuff you ARE importing from overseas then?).
Also, I think you are being a bit broad with your use of the word
"you." There are flaky people in every activity I have ever seen, and I
doubt that this one is any different.