Ok, working on thousands of mobo's and PC's (ick, i know) over the past
decade, I must agree and disagree. Most Asus and Tyan boards have been ok,
but, about 3-4 years ago, they also had the bad cap issues. The Asus A7V
(early Socket A AMD Athlon/Duron line) and some of the 266 series had a
leaky cap/cap failure issue for a while. Ended up replacing about 20 or so
boards because of this (shop was too cheap to just replace caps when
another board was on hand and took less time to swap boards than to fix the
damned problem). As with the Tyans, some of the P-III socket 370 boards
from 2000-2002 had such an issue as well, though, less
so than Asus and
obviously, much less than other manufacturers, such as Abit (the
whole
KT7/KT7A series was known to be an 8/10 failure rate for that time frame.
later revisions, I believe called the 1.3 to 1.6 revisions, did not have
these issues as different caps were used.).
As far as I could remember, if the caps leaked that badly, there was a good
chance that there was damage to other circuitry on the board and any
attempts to repair should just go to replacing the board at that point to
limit headaches from voltage and circuit instability caused by voltage flux
from the bad caps. Once had an Iwill board in the shop
I had worked in do
that from caps going bad and could not figure out why it was
giving errors
in diags/Winblows until we re-examined the board with a magnifying glass
and swapped out all the other components (ram, cpu, vid card, etc) and
found there was a small trace going from an area near one of the caps to
the northbridge that was a bit messed up. Replaced the board and things
were still a bit messed up, had to replace the ram too and then everything
cleared up.
Voltage flux is nasty as sometimes, it is an unseen killer of parts. Best
bet, if unsure if stuff is still safe, replace it and let someone else
worry about headaches.
-John Boffemmyer IV
At 07:32 AM 4/5/2005, you wrote:
On Tue, 2005-04-05 at 00:58 -0700, Eric Smith wrote:
Adrian wrote:
A friend of mine has a problem with Electrolytic
caps on his motherboard
having gone "pop" & deposited their contents on some contacts...
[...]
Does anyone know how best to remove dried
capacitor electrolyte from a
surface?
I don't know, but my solution to this has been to replace the affected
motherboards.
If the motherboard is "valuable" in some way (containing the right slot
layout for the user, or having a decent BIOS, or onboard SCSI or
something) then one option might just be to replace the damaged PCI
slot.
I've never tried this, but it can't be much harder than snipping a dead
IC from a board, cleaning everything up, and replacing. Either buy a new
PCI socket from a component place, or try removing one from a dead
motherboard. I've never tried the latter (only with ISA sockets) - but a
blowtorch on the underside of the donor board might do the trick without
damaging the PCI slot....
I'll note that I have never seen this problem
with any of my Asus or
Tyan motherboards
FWIW I've seen it on a couple of dual-CPU Asus boards before now (but
have seen other Asus boards from the same era that have been fine).
cheers
Jules