Tim Thompson wrote:
On 01/06/2011 03:21, Jerome H. Fine wrote:
For those of you who have heard about a mythical
SIX BUTTON FRONT PANEL for the BA23,
it does exist and actually works.
Mythical? I've probably seen more BA23s with a 6-button panel than
without, and both my BA23s have 6-button panels.
Most of the BA23's I ran into over the years had the
plain old (white) 4-button panels, and occasionally
the (black) 4-button panels. Some had guards around
some of the buttons to prevent accidental fat-fingering.
Good idea to use a guard. For the work I do on
RT-11, I normally turn off the READ ONLY
button when I specifically want to change a
file on the hard drive. RT-11 itself is quite
happy to run with even the system drive
in READ ONLY mode.
I was not aware that the 6 button panel was
so wide spread. While I have probably seen
at least a few dozen BA23 boxes (actually not
that many I admit), none had a 6 button panel.
When I needed to copy an RD51 to a second
RD51 drive, avoiding a copy to tape in the
middle saved 90% of the time.
As Allison confirmed, drive 0 MUST be DS3
and drive 1 MUST be DS4. The first time
that a copy was attempted from DU0: to DU1:,
both were set at DS3 and the format was lost
from both drives.
If I needed more than 2 drives, I just soldered
resistors
onto the back of the 4-button panel. Granted, the extra drives
were always write-enabled and ready, but how many people
really make their drives read-only?
Not many, but I am one.
Since the response has been far greater than
I expected, I will note my simple extra circuit.
I inserted a 10" temporary 10 pin cable into the
circuit (to the front panel of the BA23) with
a female header at one end and the male header
at the other end so that the change was VERY
temporary. Within the extra piece of cable, I
soldered line 5 to line 1, line 6 to line 2 leaving
the portion leading the the front panel on the
BA23 hanging (unattached to anything). If I
remember correctly, grounding line 5 and line 6
did the same, but after more than 10 years, I
am probably wrong and the guess is only that!!
I did this over ten years ago without a schematic,
so I forget the tests that I did. Since it worked,
I assumed that the single switch was able to carry
the extra current for at least a reasonable time.
If you have the information, can you describe the
circuits that were soldered and the size of the
resistors? In addition, would Tony (I guess this
is twice that I have taken your name in vain -
I apologize) be able to suggest the additional
circuits needed to add the green and orange
LEDs to show the same status that the 6 button
front panel for the BA23 shows?
As for the extra current on the 12 volt line for the
hard drives, it is STRONGLY suggested that
when two hard drives are used, an additional
PC power supply be used for just the hard drives
so that the BA23 power supply is not overloaded.
I doubt that this would be a problem if the hard
drives are used for less than an hour. But for
anything more than an hour, it does not seem to
be worth the risk
It is also necessary to attach a TK50 / TK70 to
the internal power supply. An additional PC
power supply does not work, I have never
tested with the RX50 except as attached to
the internal power supply. If the arrangement
is to be permanent, I tend to place the hard
drives inside the BA23 and the RX50 / TK70
outside the BA23. The fans inside the BA23
should provide the cooling for the hard drives.
However, when I use ESDI hard drives with
either a VT103, a Ba23 or a BA123, the
hard drives are always attached to an additional
PC power supply and separate fans are used
for the ESDI hard drives.
I much prefer the 10-button BA123 chassis anyway. ;-)
Likewise, but I believe a BA123 is a bit more
cumbersome to carry from one building to
another. Otherwise, the back plane is much
more accessible.
Jerome Fine