Multiple copies of messages

Howzbout: For the next three weeks, let's assume that ALL such problems are being worked on. NO gripes are appropriate until there has been a large amount of time to work on them. Although, itemization of things that are noticed might even help. My patience is waxing thicker. I think that there is a herculean effort afoot to rebuild the system. Augean stable solutions won't cut it. A few specific observations: 1) if you get a bounce or hold message from cctech, inspite of not being subscribed to that list, . . . AIUI, all messages to cctalk are automagically, in addition to posting, handed off to cctech for moderation, to be sent there. (and all cctech messages are automagically mirrored on cctalk) Therefore, even if you are not subscribed to cctech, your messages to cctalk might result in a bounce/hold message from cctech. Eventually, that may get restored to full transparency. 2) Duplicate messages, . . . any messages to one list that then get added to the traffic of the other list might result in duplicate copies arriving. I have no idea how they managed in the past to keep that from happening. 3) list management command processing, . . . there is probably still a lot to do to finish repairing that. 4) unsubscribe requests, . . . It might be necessary temproarily to make unsubscription requests to BOTH lists, since the conjoined nature has been disrupted a bit. Therefore, can we all just put up with some truly trivial glitches, and trust that things will eventually be brought back to the exceptionally smooth operations of the past? Every day, I have to wade through massive amounts of spam that gets right past the "filters" of my ISP, my prcomail, etc. (Since I also have business dealings with strangers and public, a "whitelist" solution is too stupid to consider). Once I delete a hundred spams, having to delete a small handful of duplictae posts hardly seems reasonable to be irritated about, particularly since in the past, it was handled so exceptionally well, and presumably will be again. So, I have no gripes AT ALL until after there has plenty of time to deal with the more urgent and higher priority issues of rebuilding the system. -- Grumpy Ol' Fred cisin at xenosoft.com