On 30/05/2013 01:04, Zane H. Healy wrote:
I've been working on getting shelving installed in
our Garage, and as
a result, I've been digging back to some systems that have been
buried. Right now I'm moving a bunch of Sun hardware and it hit me.
What good are old UNIX systems? I'm curious, what are people using
things like Sparc 2's through 20's for? Or even Ultra 60's and older?
I keep my Ultra-60 to remind me of how quick, reliable and user friendly
my modern Windows-7 I5 Intel boxes are. Yes the I5 desktop gets
re-booted once a week but so long as I keep the cat hair out of the
heatsink it works reliably. A scheduled task runs daily, and, when there
have been changes it builds the Windows releases of the Hercules
emulator in a couple of minutes. There are noxious batch scripts using
"For" that then upload the files to:-
http://www.smrcc.org.uk/members/g4ugm/snapshots/w32/ and .../w64
but If I am up late using the machine I don't notice.
The Lenovo T410 laptop is a delight to use. It boots up quickly has
plenty of batter life and disk space.
In contrast the U-60 has sulked the last couple of times I tried to use
it. The second disk keeps sulking and I have to chkfs it despite making
sure I close the system down cleanly. The NVRAM which is really battery
backed up RAM has died. With a dead NVRAM the U60 won't talk to the
generic VGA display so I needed a serial terminal to plug in to set it
up before booting. So the poor think got a Windows/XP PC with Hyperterm
stuffed in its serial port so I could debug it. (Actually I lie, I used
a Vintage TeleVideo Personal Terminal like this:-
http://pmlol.com/wiki/index.php?title=File:Televideo-personal.JPG
and no thats not mine....) but at work I often use a Windows server in
the same rack as our SUN servers to Hyperterm to a sulking SUN server...
Anway unlike most PC's where you can just slot in a new battery, I need
to order a new chip, so its down until that comes from China. I did try
hacking into it with my Dremel "look alike" to replace the battery but
its encapsulated in some epoxy type substance that seems "dremel proof"
and makes glass feel like rubber....
Of course if I am really feeling Masochistic I try building Hercules on
U-60 (and there is only a 64-bit build on Solaris) and it if works it
takes around an hour, if memory servers me correctly. I havn't actually
got it to build since 3.08 was released. I got GIT working after
downloading what seemed like thousands of pre-reqs, only to I run ouf
disk space for the source tree....
.. I suppose while the SUN is down I could try building on the PI as
others have said its probably slow compared to the U-60 and if I run
short of Disk Space in the U60 I guess the same will happen on the PI....
Dave
G4UGM
(any one any tips for DDing the data from the second hard drive in the
U60 to a new drive, being SCA drives its not as easy as normal SCSI...)
Part of the problem I'm looking at is that you can
get something like
a Raspberry Pi that will cost a fraction of what a Sun system costs to
run.
I won't ask this about my two SGI O2's, as they're artwork.
BTW, I'll be honest, I'm actually using two Sparc 20's right now. Each
one sits on top of two Record Crates, and acts as a speaker stand.
They've filled that role for several years. Somehow though, furniture
and artworks really aren't the uses I'm looking for. :-)
Zane