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On Tue, 7 May 2002, Zane H. Healy wrote: Oh yes, I forgot about Kai Kaltenbach. There are at least 2 others whose names I can't remember right now that cited they were leaving due to the noise. I know of others who left without saying anything because it wouldn't make a difference either way. I don't have a problem with the occasional off-topic post, or even short lived thread. But the problem here is there is no self-control, and threads will, nine times out of ten, mutate off into oblivion. When anyone complains and offers remedies, they are shouted down. Meanwhile, the problem deteriorates over time and the list suffers overall as a result. There have always been off-topic posts, and off-topic threads, but they were tolerable in the past. It's been bad for a long while, with intervening stretches of topicality, but it's now at its worst. Anyway, I've given up on fighting over it. Sure I'll still contribute to the pissing and moaning about it, but nowadays I look at the message index and read maybe 2 messages out of fifty. I stay because it's always been a good source of information for the few who are still listening amidst the din. Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org * Old computing resources for business and academia at www.VintageTech.com *