What's the problem with your unit? Does it appear
to be a digital
problem, or a problem with monitor circuit?
Digital, I suspect. Although, this is a rather bizarre problem, and
COULD be a video problem, I suppose. When I boot it up, it works
correctly, as far as I can tell, with the single exception that the
screen shows what it should be showing, only in reverse video, and
without the characters being visible, whatever the brightness level. In
I am not sure quite what you mean here. Do yuo mean that all characters
(other than space) appear as solid blocks?
Okay... Yeah, I muffed the explanation somewhat. I don't, upon
re-thinking it, have a much better explanation. However, if you would
imagine a scenario in which you are TRYING to make a "normal" HP-150
look like mine, I CAN tell you how to do it, quite simply. First,
replace all characters on the screen with spaces in the same scheme
(normal or inverse video) as the characters were, and then invert the
whole screen, on for off and off for on. Then, all the "on" bits are
made bright. Other than that, it seems to work just fine.
So, if you disable PAM and just get na MS-DOS screen, what you're saying
is that the screen is mostly white, with black blocks where the prompt
would be ? THat's really strange...
Boy do you
need the schmatics! I've looked at the 150 'Video Alpha
Display Sybsystem' and the overall design is what you'd expect, but the
details are odd. And I susepct it's one of those odd bits that's causing
the problems
Yeah. <Grumble, grumble.> Most problems I've seen with computers,
probably more than three quarters, do NOT need schematics to solve.
Ypu're lucky (or I'm stupid). Most of the time I find I do need
schematics.
OK, the basic dsegin is a CRT controller -- here
an SMC9007 (U315) which
addreeses the video RAM. The output of the video RAM is 16 bits wide
(character and attrboutes), the character part -- 10 bits of it -- goes
to the address lines of a character generator ROM U512. The output of
that goes to a shift register (U511 and U612, 'S195) which does the
obvious dot serialisation.
The attribute logic is compiclated, but based round a 16L6 HAL (mask
programmed PAL) U314. I do _not_ have the PAL equatiuons. The outputs of
that are latced (U614, '174) and feed the 'Dot Stream Mixer', a 'S153 mux
which combines the alpha dots and the graphics system dots, and which
then produses the Full Brightness and Half Brightness signals to the
'Sweep' (monitor) PCB.
Just from the symptoms, I'd bet a reasonable meal on the S153 mux.
I wouldn't. I'd want to go back a stage to that dot-expansion logic I
mentioned later. I think, if that was malfucntioning, it could hold the
dotstram line to that 'S153 in either state.
I can't see how the 'S153 would slow the signal down sufficiently to
remove all the character pattern data.
> The complicated bit is round those shift
registers I mentioned. There's
> some logic to, I think, make the line-drawing characters touch on-screen.
> This is controlled bu U46b ('S74) and is based rounf U78b ('S112) and
> U713b and a ('S09),, U712d ('LS00) and U610a ('S32)
>
> There's even a couple of gates between the 2 shift register ICs, but I
> think if that was the problem you'd get half of each character displayed
> correctly.
I have an
_old_ -- over 40 eyars old -- HP frequncy counter.
Sounds like you are discussing an HP 5245L...
Exactly. Well, it could also have been a 5243L, which is the 10MHz
version (the 5245 being 50MHz). I have one of each. Actually, a fair
number of the PCBs are common to both instruemtns. I also have some, but
certianly not all, of the plug-ins
Now THAT was some fine engineering. Old enough that they had to use
Indeed it was. As I keep on saying, that's what I loved about the old HP
and what I miss in the mdoern stuff. Built like a brick outhose, easy to
work on, reliable, accurate.
Yes! Our lab had a cesium beam that we used as an
external standard
for the 5245Ls. Truth be told, however, there really wasn't much
Alas I have to 'make do' with the internal crystal. I am told that HP
sold a rubidium beam (sub)standard that was in a 19" rack module, and
which you simply cabled up to the external oscillator input on the 5245L.
I don't hjave it, thouhg.
The calibration of the crystal oscillator takes about three days to
do correctly, and stays within tolerance for about 15 months, if I
remember the data correctly. You'd be disappointed by the rubidium beam
frequency reference, however. It drifts, too, albeit not quite as fast
I am suprised. What on earth is the mechanism for that, and how do you
adjust it. What actually controls the frequency of the Rb beam standard,
and how does it drift
-tony