Subject was: Re: TRS-80 Model 1 (was: Arty computers
On Fri, 2007-02-02 at 01:40 -0600, Doc Shipley wrote:
Warren Wolfe wrote:
I write this on a Linux machine, and I love
the operating system.
Linux is a work-alike of UNIX, developed by Bell Labs (K&R). The Apple
OS-X is a licensed variant of UNIX. Linux is NOT an offshoot of Apple.
OK, I know this is way OT, but I'd like to see that documented. As
far as I know OS X is NOT a licensed UNIX. As a matter of fact, by any
definition I'd use, it's not unix period. It just has a really pretty
[and incredibly useful] POSIX API.
Okay... I just checked, and Apple did NOT go to the nicety of
licensing OS X as a version of UNIX. I'm sorry I issued incorrect
information; I simply assumed that they HAD licensed it, since others in
similar situations have done so. The fact that they have NOT licensed
what they are using might well put them at legal risk. I believe they
could, (and probably SHOULD,) license OS X as containing UNIX code, and
my reasoning goes like this:
NeXTStep was based upon the Mach 2.5 Kernel. The Mach Kernel was
developed at Carnegie Mellon University in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, as
a replacement for the kernel in the BSD (actually licensed) version of
UNIX, and thus became part of licensed UNIX. NeXT then collaborated
with, among others, Sun, to implement a new standard for NeXTStep,
Solaris (another actually licensed version of UNIX) and Windows, called
OpenStep. Then, in 1997, Apple acquired NeXT, and used NeXT's version
of OpenStep as the basis for OS X. One can see proof of this in that
the Objective C classes start with "NS," and in the form of a few
admissions in the Man Pages in OS X which directly credit NeXTStep.
I dunno... Do you find this an adequate lineage? I believe that a
decent case could be made, and probably won, that Apple is infringing on
UNIX with OS X. It's true I erroneously assumed that Apple had licensed
it, since I find it bizarre that a company with as much money as Apple
would expose themselves to something as potentially crippling as the
loss of their operating system. In a country as litigious as the United
States, one does not often find a company leaving their, erm, apples
dangling in the breeze that way. I'm still finding it hard to believe,
although I do appreciate your pointing that fact out to me. I would
guess that the intellectual property rights of UNIX ended up with
Alcatel-Lucent, but, that whole related series of trades, spin-offs and
mergers has left me a bit confused. In any case, WHOEVER now owns the
rights to UNIX would probably be interested in the fact that some
version of their code is being sold without license.
Peace,
Warren E. Wolfe
wizard at
voyager.net