On Sep 26,
2021, at 10:03 AM, Bill Degnan via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
?I was either sacrifice a data drive to make it a backup of the primary or
find a like drive first, get the system stable and then upgrade. I have a
3000 too here if you want to work together to troubleshoot yours
Bill
> On Sun, Sep 26, 2021, 9:46 AM Zane Healy via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org>
> wrote:
>
>> On Sep 26, 2021, at 12:22 AM, Alexander Jacocks via cctalk <
>> cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
>>
>> I?ve got a DEC 3000/300 system that has some SCSI drives with aging
> bearings installed. I?d like to be able to start to migrate some of my
> systems, like this, to flash media, of some kind, as even my large
> repository of SCSI disks is starting to dry up.
>> Here is my SRM level info:
>> DEC 3000 - M300
>> Digital Equipment Corporation
>> VPP PAL V5.56-80800101/OSF PAL V1.45-80800201 - Built on 30-SEP-1996
> 09:18:31.84
>> As far as I have read, the SCSI2SD v6 2020 should be compatible with
> several varieties of DEC hardware, from the VAXen to the Alphas. However, I
> can?t seem to get anywhere useful with mine. I have the virtual disks
> configured as follows:
>>>>> sh dev
>> BOOTDEV ADDR DEVTYPE NUMBYTES RM/FX WP DEVNAM
> REV
>> ------- ---- ------- -------- ----- -- ------
> ---
>> ESA0 08-00-2B-3F-4C-9A , TENBT
>> DKA100 A/1/0 DISK 9.54GB FX RZ40
> 6.0
>> DKA300 A/3/0 DISK 9.54GB FX RZ40
> 6.0
>> DKA400 A/4/0 RODISK 305.01MB RM WP RRD45
> 6.0
>> All three disks are from the SCSI2SD. I have attempted to make the
> inquiry strings match the originals, as closely as possible. In the SCSI2SD
> utility, I have the following config:
>> General page: all defaults, termination off (I have tried parity, scsi2
> mode, and setting SCSI speed to sync, with no improvement)
>> Device 1: enabled, ID 1, device Hard Drive, start sector 0, sector size
> 512, sector count 18636800, vendor ?DEC ", product ?RZ40 ?,
> revision ? 6.0?, serial number <random string>
>> Device 2: enabled, ID 3, device Hard Drive, start sector 18636800,
> sector size 512, sector count 18636800, vendor ?DEC ", product ?RZ40
> ?, revision ? 6.0?, serial number <random string + 1>
>> Device 3: enabled, ID 4, device CDROM, start sector 37273600, sector
> size 2048, sector count 148933, vendor ?DEC ", product ?RRD45 ?,
> revision ? 6.0?, serial number <random string + 2>
>> I?ve also tried booting from a virtual CDROM, only, with no luck there,
> either. In all cases, I get the following from SRM:
>>>>> test scsi
>> T-STS-SCSI A - Data Trans test
>> ? T-ERR-SCSI A - Data Trans test - nondma/sync inq size miscompare
>> T-ERR-SCSI A - id = 1 lun = 0
>>
>> ? T-ERR-SCSI A - Data Trans test - nondma/sync inq size miscompare
>> T-ERR-SCSI A - id = 3 lun = 0
>>
>> ? T-ERR-SCSI A - Data Trans test - nondma/sync inq size miscompare
>> T-ERR-SCSI A - id = 4 lun = 0
>> ?? 002 SCSI 0x0008
>>
>>
>> 84 FAIL
>>
>> Does anyone have an idea what might be causing this? Has anyone tried a
> v6 SCSI2SD in a DEC 3000?
>> Thanks!
>> - Alex
> I picked up a couple v6 boards for my AlphaStation 200 4/233, but haven?t
> tried to use them yet.
>
> Are you using the onboard SCSI, or a SCSI board? I?m ?going to assume
> you?ve tried a different cable, and to get it working from actual physical
> drives? Have you tried turning the termination on, on the board? Is your
> SCSI Bus Terminated?
>
> You actually have RZ40?s in the system? I?m asking as I?m not actually
> familiar with that drive type, at least it?s not one I remember off the top
> fo my head. I usually use RZ29?s. On my v5.2 board on my VAXstation
> 4000/90 I think I went with basic 8GB drives, without a vendor string or
> product string.
I have a Quantum XP2160 and a Seagate 1050 in my 3000. Both
function, but have significant bearing whine, and I have no idea how many hours are on
each. So, I know my scsi subsystem and termination are fine. I?m going to pull a scsi2sd
v5.2 from a Quadra 700 and try that, to see if I get the same errors.
I used the RZ40 as the inquiry string, and matched the sector count, to make SRM happy. I
have real RZ25s and RZ26es, but they are quite small. Most of my modern scsi disks are 10
and 15k U320s, and not a good choice for heat constrained enclosures like the 3000. Not to
mention that 300gb is just silly for Digital UNIX.
- Alex
Difference in length of data sent or expected for SCSI-1 vs SCSI-2 inq
commands?
? Jerry