>>
>> > But then it still amazes me that I know many programmers
>> who don't own
>> > a 'scope or soldering iron (and wouldn't really know how
>> to use them
>> > anyway), but I don't know a single hardware hacker who
>> doesn't have a
>> > C compiler and know how to use it.
>>
>> HITS NAIL ON HEAD
1) I know many hardware hackers who don't know a compiler from a debugger
[Thinking of some of my Ham buddies]....
2) I tend to hit finger with hammer and from nail.
Other than that I agree...