Just picked up a HP 9836 sans monitor. After doing a little research on
monitors for these, I've discovered that it ain't quite plug and play.
It _is_ plug-and-play if you have the correct HP monitor. Otherwise it's
rather less trivial.
I've scrounged through the HP Museum site (and
google, google, google....)
trying to determine pin outs, sync, anything to determine what might be
substituted. Has anyone been there done that, have a hint what might be a
direction which direction to begin in?
Fortunately Iv'e enver had to do this, both my 9836s came with the right
monitors. But I have a fiar idea as to what is involved.
The fitst thing is that the monochrome and colour monitors are very
different. So different that you can't swap them over. The mono monitor
has 2 TTL level signals (basically video and intensity) for the video
input. The colour monbitor has 3 analogue signals (R,G,B - -at least
thatbti ais as expected) -- and the machine outputs are current sinks,
not votlage outputs. The pinout is dffernet too -- even the sync signals
move around.
So the first thign to do is to find out what sort of machine you have.
_If_ it's no been messad around wioth (and this could be a big 'if'),
then if you have a little thumbwheel control on the underside of the
machine, left side, almostunder the vertical panel where the disk drives
are, it's a colour machine (9836C). If not, there's jsut a slot there,
it's a monochrome machine, (9836A).
The only way to be really sure is to look at the video boarss. Take off
the top cover (4 large screws on the bottom, not the smaller ones that
hold the ekyboard in palce). Take off the board hold-down, then unplu
tehe CPU board and disk controller, disconnect the signal cables from the
disk crives.
Next unplug hte power and LED cables from the drives and take out the
drives themselves buy remvoign the 6 screws tht hodl each metal 'tunnel'
in palce. Take off the metalwork under the drives. The video boards are
hiding under the left disk drive. The top board is the graphics board,
the bottom one for text. Check the part number on the board(s) and also
if there are conenctors between the boards (other than the ribbon
cables), it's a colour machine.
he machins I own hav the follwoig nvideo boards :
HP9836A (monochrome)
Text : 09826-66576
Graphics : 09826-66577
HP9836C (colour)
Text : 09836-66572
Graphics : 09836-66573
The monitor conencotr is a DA15. The pinouts are :
Mono (HP9836A)
1 : Gnd (Intensity)
2 : Gnd (spare)
3 : N/C
4 : Gnd
5 : -12V
6 : Gnd
7 : +12V (Power to monitor)
8 : Chassis/
9 : Intensity
10 : Spare
11 : Spare
12 : Video
13 : Gnd (Video)
14 : HSync
15 : VSync
Colour (HP9836C)
1 : Gnd (B)
2 : Gnd (G)
3 : B/C
4 : Gnd
5 : -12V
6 ; Gnd
7 : +12V (for monitor power relay)
8 : Chassis
9 : Blue
10 : Green
11 : HSync
12 : Red
13 : Gnd(R)
14 : VBlank
15 : VSync
I forget the scan rates, but I am pretty sure thay are odd. Well, VSync
is 60Hz, or close to it. I think HSync is about 22KHz, but do check this,
I may well eb thinking fo soemthing esle.
If you ware goign to use a modern-ish LCD monitor note that a lot of thse
can't sync that low. And even some of the ones tht include TV rates
(15.xxx kHz) they won't sync to anything elxe below 31kHz.
You mentioend you'd looked at the HP museum site. Which one? The one you
want is the Australian museum,
http://www.hpmuseum.net/ . One trap for
the unwary here is that the HP9826 and HP9836 are very closely related
machines, and many manuals for the latter aappear under the former on
that site.
When you have found outjsut what you have, I think I would start by
measuring the frequencies of the sync signals o nthe ap[propraite pins of
the DA15 connector. Then post here and maybe somebody will have some ideas.
-tony