14 Jan
2003
14 Jan
'03
5:22 p.m.
----- Original Message -----
It's very hard to know what the "systems administrator in
Belgium"
really needs. A light table that in "steered" by a mouse may be a
back-lit digitizing table and the "mouse" may be a tablet puck
with only one button that just looks like an Apple mouse.
On the other hand he may be using an old Mac as a controller
for these light tables and needs the original Apple mouse.
If it is a serial mouse then likely mice are:
1) Logitech C7
2) MouseSystems
3) Logitech R7
These all came with 9-pin D type female connectors.
The early R7 and MouseSystems were made with 25-pin
D type female connectors and both came with external
power supplies.
The Logitech C7 and later MouseSystems were powered
by the RS-232 status lines and didn't use an external
power supply.
The Logitech mice could emulate some of the popular
drawing tablet serial formats.
What we need to know to more about are these light tables
and how they are used.
> > From: Dan Veeneman cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
> > To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 12:23 AM
> > Subject: Re: Fwd: Apple mouse needed in Belgium
> >
> > Can anyone in Belgium help this fellow?
> >
> > From: "Arthur Odekerken" <admin(a)cchasselt.be>
> > To: <dan(a)decodesystems.com>
> > Subject: Apple mouse
> > Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 23:51:07 +0100
> >
> > Hi!
> >
> > I am a systems administrator at a cultural center in Belgium. We have
3
> > light tables (12 years old) that are steered
with a mouse but we only
have
> > one mouse left. It was very hard for me to
find a mouse that worked,
> > because it had to be a female DB9 Serial plug, with at least 7 cables
> > soldered. Finally I came across the Apple M0100 (Made in the U.S.A.
type
> > 590-0320). At your website I found some
pictures of the same mouse. My
> > question now is, do you know where I can find such a mouse, because if
I
> > don't find it, it could cost the centre
a lot more money than just the
> > price of one mouse.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Arthur Odekerken
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Tony Duell" <ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk>
> > To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 4:32 PM
> > Subject: Re: Fwd: Apple mouse needed in Belgium
> >
> > I am a systems administrator at a cultural center in Belgium. We have
3
> > light tables (12 years old) that are steered
with a mouse but we only
have
> > one mouse left. It was very hard for me to
find a mouse that worked,
> > because it had to be a female DB9 Serial plug, with at least 7 cables
> >
> ARGH!! 2 mistakes in as many 'words'.
>
> Firstly the trivial one, it's a DE9 socket, not a DB9 plug.
>
> And then the important one. It's not serial, it's quadrature signals (at
> least if that Apple mouse works). That, surely is more important than
the
> connector (the pinout of the Apple mouse is
known, and I can't believe
> there is nobody in Belgium who can solder wires to a DE9 socket, so
(say)
> a PC bus mouse, or a Atari ST mouse, or... could
be converted.
>
> The other thing that worries me is that 'we only have one mouse _left_'
> (my emphasis). It sounds as though they believe mice can't be repaired.
> Most of the problems are breaks in the cable or gummed up mechanical
> parts that cna easily be fixed. Alas this is an unconventional view
these
days...
-tony