24 May
2010
24 May
'10
12:34 p.m.
Have you ever been there? Or do you craft such attacks as works of pure fiction?
I've been there. Your criticism is unwarranted and, as far as I can tell, baseless,
other than perhaps an unnecessarily harshly stated opinion of the quality of their web
presence. Your assumptions are likewise without logic or meaningful premise, for example
"No sign of the operators they should have had to run them so assumed not
working." When students tour our exhibit floor, I don't have them include me in
the photos they take of our running restorations.
Many of the volunteers do serve as docents to guide the public through the exhibits. Why
would you infer otherwise? And why "behind a suitable barrier"? I'd rather
get hands ON these systems - with suitable guidance, "of course."
What did they do to tick you off? The only thing I can infer from your uninformed rant is
that you have some sort of personal agenda against TNMOC. I think they're fine people
doing a good job - and yes, one of their tasks has to be fundraising. I don't
understand people who don't get that. These folks have more than a couple of
VAXstations in their basement: it's an impressive collection that covers a lot of
ground, both historically and physically. Just their power bill must be a fearsome
thing.... -- Ian
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-
bounces at classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of RodSmallwood
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 8:21 AM
To: 'General Discussion: On-Topic Posts Only'
Subject: RE: Anyone off to VCF-UK?
Well I investigated TNMoC...
I read through the web site and looked at the pictures. The text was a
lot
of waffle about how wonderful the forty good people are and please send
us
more money so we can talk more about ourselves. I'm sure their heating
bills
are very low as there's plenty of hot air already available!
Three so called galleries...
The first gallery held three large systems claimed to be operational.
No sign of the operators they should have had to run them so assumed
not
working.
The second held a mixture of very common consumer type systems from the
70's
& 80's. The working ones appear to have been dumped in the middle and
the
rest scattered around the walls on racks. At least group by
manufacturer and
age FGS!
Letting people just play with restored systems is as bad as not
restoring
them at all. The "forty good and true people" should be demonstrating
what
the systems could do. (From behind a suitable barrier of course) And if
heaven forbid! They can't, well rambling is a good hobby.
And the last one contains a Colossus rebuild (for BPT I assume)
Talk, waffle and hype will never make up for a lack of basic knowledge.
Rod
-----Original Message-----
From: cctech-bounces at classiccmp.org [mailto:cctech-
bounces at classiccmp.org]
On Behalf Of Pete Turnbull
Sent: 23 May 2010 12:04
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: Anyone off to VCF-UK?
On 22/05/2010 19:36, Tony Duell wrote:
Possibly. One of my main moans about BP is that
they routinely ignore
enthusisats. They don't seem to believe you can be self-taught and
clueful. We can start the field-servoid war again if you like...
That really isn't true of TNMoC (though as has been pointed out that's
not the same organisation as the Bletchley Park Trust). TNMoC is run
almost entirely by volunteers, and I've not known them refuse any help
offered. Which is why I volunteered to help at VCF; that and talking
to
them (and Rich and Ian and others from this list) at the DEC Legacy
event.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Network Manager
University of York