On Sat, Nov 3, 2018 at 1:12 AM Lyle Bickley via cctalk
<cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
On Sat, 03 Nov 2018 15:13:16 +1100
Guy Dunphy via cctalk <cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
This is rather sad.
I've received a PDP-8/S. It turns out to be missing so much, that
it's probably beyond restoration. Anyone who can think of potential
ways to find the missing parts, please speak up.
http://everist.org/pics/PDP-8S/
Missing:
- Front panel PCB,
- Case top AND bottom,
- Power supply.
- Some flip-chip slots are empty. Not sure if supposed to be.
I have a restored and running PDP-8/S.
It looks to me that you're not missing modules - the open slots are
for the I/O cables.
Yes.
Start by looking at
http://www.ricomputermuseum.org/Home/equipment/pdp-8s
At a quick glance, I see you _might_ have 2-3 cards in wrong slots
near some intentional gaps. Check that.
The open slots at the back are for the I/O cables. The open slots
near the memory stack are supposed to be empty with the one possible
exception where I see in your photo you have a single-height amber
card and the RICM PDP-8/S appears to have a dual-height amber card. I
don't have the printset up so I can't tell exactly what's going on
there. Could be normal variation as they made changes across the run.
The P/S is a standard DEC linear P/S and can be easily
substituted until
you come across the real thing.
Yes. You just need enough amps at +10V and -15V to fire it up.
What I don't know off the top of my head is the difference between a
table-top and rack-mounted system. RICM has pictures of a
rack-mounted system. Mine is table-top. It's entirely possible that
yours was pulled from a rack and the PSU stayed behind. Yours might
never have had covers like the desktop unit.
You need to get the schematics for the version of the
PDP-8/S you have
and check the modules in your system against the module chart.
Yes. "for the version you have" is important. I don't think there's
exactly one way they built it across multiple years. There can easily
be a module or two different between different manufacturing dates if
there was a large ECO.
When you say the front panel PCB is missing - do you
mean that there
is not a large circuit board with incandescent lamps in the system?
That would seem unusual to me - given that all the switches are on the
front panel.
Unlike every other machine I've worked on, the -8/S has *two* front
panel boards. One is very short and has just the switches and sits in
slot 1. The other is full-sized and has only the lamps, no switches
and sits in slot 2. I see from your photos, that board is missing.
Given that it's fairly simple, you might be able to find a Unibus
hex-height protoboard and fabricate a replacement. The lamps might be
interesting to source - ISTR they have 28V filaments, underdriven to
give them a long lifetime. I can't recommend the original lamps
anyway - they are not the bi-pin bulbs used in later models (PDP-8/L
and newer). They have these brittle leads coming out of the glass and
no plastic base. I have several in mine that had the leads break off
right at the glass. Even if the filaments are intact, these bulbs are
essentially dead. I do not presently have any replacement bulbs of
any type for mine.
Also
there's no sign of any I/O circuitry.
There is NO I/O on a PDP-8/S. The I/O cables connected to any I/O that
existed.
Yep. All the I/O was external on the Negibus, even the console TTY
(there's a PT08 in the base of an ASR-33 that was standard for this
model). I didn't get the TTY with mine (it was long gone, to a Ham
club, I was told) so I don't have a console SLU either. Once I get
the CPU working, I'll have to fabricate a PT08 replacement.
There just wasn't room in the box for any I/O. The backplane on this
model is close to half the size of the backplane on a Straight-8.
Please get a PDP-8/S service manual and schematics...
Definitely.
-ethan