On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Al Kossow <aek at bitsavers.org> wrote:
On 6/25/13 8:01 AM, Mr Ian Primus wrote:
I forget exactly how drive select is done on the
3.5 drives, but I know on
the Unidisk 5.25, there are two pins for drive select. 9 and 17...
I uploaded a document to
http://bitsavers.org/pdf/apple/disk/sony/ that
describes the differences in pinout.
Thanks for this, Al. I was looking at the multicolumn table "pin assignment
on Apple floppy disk drive" to see some of what I was looking for when I
recently asked about using a double-sided floppy on an original 128K
Mac with original (MFS-only) 64K ROMs. I see the following differences
between "single sided Mac" and "double sided Mac" which must be
part of the whole "red stripe"/"yellow stripe" floppy cable thing...
DB-19 pin 9 / 20-pin-cable pin 17
/ENABL2 in other drives/machines
Mac single-sided and double-sided: "+12V in drive / No Wire"
DB-19 pin 5 / 20-pin-cable pin 9
-12V in most cases in other drives/machines
"no wire" on Mac drives (-12V on host)
DB-19 pin 10 / 20-pin-cable pin 19 or 20
WRPROT in most cases in other drives/machines
Mac single-sided: PWM (on 20)
Mac double-sided: "N.C. in drive/PWM in Mac" (on 20)
So... it looks like a wire or two differences in the power, the
functional difference between single-sided and double-sided is the PWM
line on pin 20 on a single-sided drive is a No Connect on a
double-sided drive. I do remember that the 400K (single-sided) drives
changed pitch as they ran the heads in and out, obviously controlled
by the PWM line from the Mac, and that the 800K (double-sided) drives
did not change pitch.
My goal is to put together a 128K Mac with an internal and an external
floppy drive for exhibit/display purposes (mostly to show what a PITA
it was to use the original, unexpanded Mac). I have a fully-working
Mac with keyboard and mouse and functional internal floppy. The thing
I'm trying to do is add a single external floppy for outboard data and
applications to minimize the "floppy dance" (and I think historically
it was somewhat common to bite the bullet and pay for a second floppy
drive when hard drives were unavailable or nearly as expensive as the
machine itself). I know they quickly dumped the 128K Mac in favor of
512K of RAM (and equally as quickly standardized on 1MB with the dawn
of the Mac Plus), but the point of the exercise is being
semi-productive with 128K and no hard disk.
This being an entirely optional exercise, I'm not likely to scour eBay
for an old M130 drive. I do have the shell of an M130 from a drive
that died 25 years ago, so I'm willing to entertain hiding a
double-sided drive mech inside the "correct" enclosure. If a newer
drive mech will sufficiently act like an older one (doing the right
thing with linear bit density as the heads step in and out, and not
caring that only one head is ever selected), then I might be able to
pull this off. Alternately, I don't mind picking up an inexpensive
working M130 (even if it needs cleaned/lubed) but they aren't as
common as they once were.
I guess as long as I don't route +12V or -12V where it's not welcome,
the other differences aren't likely to break anything, but if anyone
has any advice or suggestions on mixing and matching drives and the
most ancient of Macs, I'm willing to listen and save any time and
frustration trying things that are known not to work.
-ethan