20 Jul
2004
20 Jul
'04
4:02 a.m.
I'm sorry to have to bother the whole list with this. I already wrote
to cctalk-owner and got no response whatever as far as I can tell; I
figured I'd let myself try the list, once, in the hope someone is
watching there but not at the -owner address.
It seems my subscription has been "disabled due to excessive bounces".
The mail saying so includes a token that I can supposedly send back to
reenable things, but it doesn't work, probably because the list
software (a) waited ten days after disabling before telling me anything
and (b) didn't generate a newly-valid token after waiting.
The last rejection (not bounce, no matter what the message thinks - I
don't accept-and-bounce except under very unusual circumstances) was
July 3rd (not the July 6th claimed by the message, unless later
attempts came through a different host), and I got no notification
until July 13th. I replied immediately and got told the token was
invalid (with a note that they're good for only three days). I sent
the whole mess off to cctalk-owner.
Just now, a week later, I got a second notice of disablement. It
included _the very same token_, despite it now being a week older. (It
still doesn't work.)
Today's notice of disablement and the response to my reenablement
attempt are quoted below, after my signature. Does anyone know what's
wrong here and whom I need to nudge to get it fixed? As I said, I've
already tried cctalk-owner. (Obviously, I won't see on-list replies
here; direct, or at least copy to me, would be needed for me to get
it.) I can dig up copies of last week's notice and response too, if
desired.
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---------------- Notice of disablement
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From: cctalk-request(a)classiccmp.org
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Subject: confirm 93199cd740a4a110d65b18d1aea766bc9f292eaa
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Your membership in the mailing list cctalk has been disabled due to
excessive bounces The last bounce received from you was dated
06-Jul-2004. You will not get any more messages from this list until
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this before your membership in the list is deleted.
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reminder, your membership password is
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---------------- Reenablement failure
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The results of your email command are provided below. Attached is your
original message.
- Results:
Invalid confirmation string. Note that confirmation strings expire
approximately 3 days after the initial subscription request. If your
confirmation has expired, please try to re-submit your original request or
message.
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X-Erik-Conspiracy: There is no Conspiracy - and if there were I wouldn't be
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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 11:58:22 -0400 (EDT)
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