29 Jun
2001
29 Jun
'01
1:46 p.m.
This is interesting!
I have never seen a 2748 interfaced to a 8-bit duplex register board. This
would take a special cable, quite different from my reader cable.
The HP tape reader board I've always seen connected to the photo tape
readers is P/N 02116-8002. Its simply labelled "Tape Reader", and has
a two row of 11 DIP packages, 8 two-transistor data receivers, and a 7
transistor driver-receiver section for flag and control.
Because the HP processor has no need to send data to the reader, the more
complex and expensive 8 bit duplex register is overkill. But the signal levels
may be correct, if you have the right version of the duplex register board...
The HP Tape Reader 02116-8002 board can only send the state of the control
bit to the 2748 (or 2847) reader. It accepts 8 data bits on pins 1-4 and A-D,
which
is not compatible with the 8-bit duplex registers pin assignments.
Jay West wrote:
The 2748A/B paper tape reader uses the "8-bit
duplex register interface".
That would lead me to believe it's an 8 bit interface, not a 16 bit one.
I have full docs (& schematics I believe) for both the 2748B and the 8-bit
duplex register interface board. I have two of those units presently
running, so I can get the cable pinout too if you'd like (but I believe the
cable diagram is in the interface manual). Let me know if you still need
them.
One word of caution about the facit 4070 punch... as I found out when I got
mine - the facit had a board in it that was replaced depending on what
electrical spec the system you were attaching it to used. I seem to recall
that you had to specify which (of many) interfaces you wanted on the punch
when you ordered it. So just because you find a 4070 punch doesn't mean it
has the right board in it to hook up to the 8-bit duplex register board (hp
punches and readers both used the 8-bit duplex register board). Matter of
fact, unless it was found with an HP system, it probably DOESN'T have the
right board for the HP. You can't tell from the outside either, as I've seen
the RS-232 interface board in the punch presents a DB25 externally - just
the same as the HP version of the card does (which is decidedly NOT RS-232).
Jay West
----- Original Message -----
From: Tony Duell <ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk>
To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 12:41 PM
Subject: Re: HP2748A papertape reader : connector ?
character-based
the
>
> If its's the unit I'm thinking of, it's a connector similar to the ones
> used for V.35 interfaces.
>
> -tony
>
>
>
> At 09:22 PM 6/28/01 +0200, you wrote:
>
> >A recent dumpster dive yielded a HP2748A papertape reader. Does anyone
have
> >the interface spec's for this device
handy ?
>
>
> I think *some* of HP's paper tape punches and readers use the
82032
parallel
interface. It's a 16 bit parallel interface with several
I suspect this is highly likely since the 16 bit parallel interfaces,
like the 82032, 98032 (for the 9825, etc) were used for many (and other) peripherals.
came
additional handshaking lines. Each data line can
be set as Input only,
I would be suprised if a paper tape reader used all the capabilities of
that interface, though. Most likely there are 8 outputs from the tape
reader (1 per data track), a data strobe signal (produced from the
sprocket track, and either an input signal to cause the reader to advance
one character (and read it) or one to start the tape moving, whereupon
you get data strobes every so many ms. Maybe signals for error (tape run
out, etc) and direction control
There's not that much you need for a paper tape reader after all...
> Output only or In and Out. I think have one around here somewhere that > off of a PT punch. You should have grabbed
the PT punch, I think the
Facit
is what
HP used or perhaps I should say one of the ones that they
The Facit 4070 is what _everyone_ used :-). Yes, HP used it for a time
(one of the options for the 98032 is certainly to connect to a 4070, and
it was used with larger machines as well). So did Philips (on the P800
series). I've got a 3rd party card to link it to the DEC Unibus, and
information on a similar card for Omnibus. Oh, and my Fluke DVM system
has an option card to drive the 4070.
I've even seen other paper tape punches (Trend made one based on the GNT
Model 34 mechanism) that have the same interface. The 4070 was almost a
de facto standard for paper tape punches.
> used. What kind of connector is on your PT reader? I think most of