Tony,
I'm pretty sure we have all of the above, though not in working order. However, if you
need photos or a chance to study the kit, I'm sure we can help. I know we also have an
HP video on about it which covers some setup and maintenance.
I'd be only too pleased to repay your kind assistance to us.
ard at p850ug1.demon.co.uk wrote:
I am not sure if this is on-topic since the machine
involved was sold
as
a calculaotr. On the other hand, it programs in BASIC, it's getting on
for 40 yuears old, and I am thinking of adding a hard disk. Classic
computer?
The HP9880 is the hard disk (14" platters) for the HP9830 'calculator'.
I
am slowly gathering the various bits of this system, I would love to
get
it all working again.
As I understnad it, you need :
An HP9830 calculator,
HP9866 printer
Mass Memory ROM module
HP11273B 'cable' from the HP9830 to the controller
HP11305 disk controller
HP11302 cable from the controlelr to the drive
HP7900A disk drive (one fixed, oen removeable plater) + PSU (or HP7901,
which has only the removeable platter, but has an internal PSU)
System tape cassette for the HP9830
Disk packs (of course).
Now, The 9830 and 9866 I have, working. The HP11305 controller and both
'cables' (I put that in quotes becase thes cable assembleis have PSBs
stuffed with ICs at at elast one end -- the 11273 has over 50 ICs in
it)
I also have, untested, but I know th PSU is good and the microcde ROMs
look OPK (the disassebmyl of the mcirocode makes sense). Since
everything
else is standard TTL, analogue or RAMs ICs, I think that's reparaiable
if
necessary. I have the scheamtics and micorocde source for all that.
The HP9800e emulator includes a dumo of the Mass Memory ROM, and thus I
have it in an EPROM module.
That emualtor also has an image of the ssytem and service tapes for
the
9880, but as yet I haven'tt figured out the format of the image file or
how to get them back onto physicl cassettes. I do have another tape
drive
mechansim (not HP) which sould be able to produce compatible tapes
'Just'
a little matter of figuring out how ot interface it to soemthign and
use
it. At least I ahve the handbook for said drive, it includes timeing
diagrams and schematics.
Which leaves the drive and packs. This is the problem, I susepct I do
havev a 7900A. Alas it was in a skip (dumpster) and had a 2100A thrown
on
top of it. The 2100A survived. THe 7900A is more sdubious. The front
was
samaged when it was gtaken out of the rack too. It's missing the
terminator and the little card edge conenctor PCB, but those are easy
to
make I think.
It's going ot need work. I also don't have the PSU for it. This seems
ot
be 120C AC (not isolated from the mains) for the blower and spindle
motros), unregualted +/-24V and regulated +5V, +/-12V. Nothing
difficult,
but I can see myself speding time and moeny making something and then
find the heads will no logner fly. I susepct replacement heads are not
exactly common, I wonder if RK05 heads can me made ot fit?
According to the HP nanual for the drive, there was a text/service unti
for this drive, it conencted ot the side of the backplane. I cna't
rememebr the model numebr (HP13219?). Hase anyone ever seen one, or
have
the manuals for it?
And now for the pack. It's the same physicla size as the RK05 pack, but
24 (hard) sectors. Of coruse there's the fixed platter in the 7900A
drive
with it's own 24 sector hard dsetoy rign nad transducer. I belived the
drive will spin up with any pack in it, so I could put a 'scratch' 12
sector RK05 in there to (a) see if the heads will fly and (b) see if I
can use the fixed paltter (which will be 24 sector) drom the HP9830.
If I get that far, I guess I then take an RK05 pack apart and attempt
to
put anotehr 12 notches i nthe sector ring. I beleive I then have to
re-centre the platter on the hub which will be 'interesting'
What if the heads crash? Maybe try to fit RK05 heads (I have some brand
new spares here). Maybe try to interface an RK03 or RK05 to the HP
contorller. The interface is differnet, but at least the data rate is
the
same. It woudl take a bit of logic to get it to work, but... If all
else
fails, make a solid-state repalcement for the drive?
I gueess the questions at the momnet are :
Anyone know the precise details of the tape image file format for
9800e?
Anyone ever manage to fit RK05 heads into an HP7900?
Anyone ever managed to cut the ectra sector notches?
Anything knwon about the disk service unit for the HP7900?
Does anyone have any comments/thoughts. Am I totally crazy for trying
to
do this?
-tony
-- Colin