Rumor has it that Iggy Drougge may have mentioned these words:
Glen Goodwin skrev:
One machine, or many? If you have a pile of
cards, one machine, and none
of the cards work in that specific box, I'd suggest that there may be a
fault in the box, or another device in there which conflicts with your SCSI
cards.
Who cares what the cause is? The point is that it won't work.
If the cause is the motherboard, you can't (justly) accuse the SCSI card of
being the problem...
I see that BIOS setup utility on the cards as a
sympthom of the low level of
integration. The cards behave as an alien entity in the computer.
With my job, one realizes that *every* card is an alien entity -- I've had
*much* less heartburn getting add-on SCSI cards to work compared to
PCI-based add-on IDE cards (which, BTW, have their own BIOS too - and a
much more useless one at that...) and you apparently have never gotten a
Sound Blaster Live MP3/5.1 card working under Windows 2000... It took me
over 4 hours to research that one, whereas my 4-year-old --ahem -- no
longer supported -- PCI Diamond MultiMedia Fireport 40 Ultra SCSI card
installed without a hitch...
> and they
don't behave like the IDE hard drives.
Well, that's the point, right? ;>)
Not really. IMO a drive is a drive is a drive is a drive.
You're certainly entitled to your opinion, but I cannot subscribe to that
point of view -- especially when I want my drive to do something a normal
drive isn't supposed to do.
And don't get me started on IDE 2.1 Orb Drives... Love the storage, *Hate*
the setup... (and XP doesn't support it yet...) SCSI "just plain works..."
> They
> have their own little BIOSes and things which I'm not used to from other
> systems.
Those little BIOSes (the ones with a setup
program) are a *big* advantage.
Just today I was cursing the fact that the BIOS on the ATA-66 controller I
was installing didn't have a setup program. It took me two hours to get
all six IDE drives working properly. With a decent SCSI card it would have
been 15 minutes, tops (barring any bad drives or cables).
Why? I've never had any need for a SCSI BIOS on my SCSI computers.
And you won't until you need to boot from any drive that's not ID 0 on the
board (like booting from CD, etc...)
> In fact,
non-PC systems tend to see IDE as a kind of bastard SCSI
> instead.
>They may be onto something there . . .
;-)
For example, the onboard IDE controller in the Amiga
4000 and 1200 appear to
the system as scsi.device. And NetBSD/amiga only recently switched from "IDE
on SCSI" to the machine-independent WDC device. =)
And the only way I can get my IDE 16X Plextor CD-RW to work under Linux is
with SCSI emulation - without it I end up with digital frizbees...
Thankfully, SCSI works for me! ;-)
Just my $0.000002 (Canadian - I'm going to Canada today...)
Roger "Merch" Merchberger